body requirements?

[3amigo]

Does the score rulebook lay out what body panels need to be stock in class 3?
Cam, you are doing a great job, and thanks for the rules you have posted here.
I just finished up the work on my frame and I am trying to decide if I should try and work around the complete body or if I should build the cage first and then scab on the required panels.

It seems like I need to run the stock windshield frame, and roof. I thought that I heard that I need to run the rocker panels as well.

How about the b,c,d pillars? My trooper is a 4 door and I don't know if the rules specifically mention the added pillars assocciated with a 4 door vehicle.

I am thinking about running the windshield frame and roof, the rockers and the grill. I would like to run fiberglass for everything else.

Does that fit the spirit of the rules?

I can't see me racing in Baja, I just don't have the resources to pull off that big of a logistics nitemare. My first race will be a BORE race, I don't know where they will stick me, maybe class 7.
I would like to participate in the cup races that are in the states, that is the plan anyway.
Mostly I'm excited that my rig is moving forward and it seems like it is actually taking shape!

Any way, body rules? any one?

[straightaxle]

According to the SCORE rules, and what has been built in the past, there don't have to be any OEM stock panels. It does have to look a little like the stock pieces, but can all be aftermarket. See the Garage Queen section on this site, it was all OK'd by SCORE but has yet to turn a wheel in a race. Scott's EB from Texas is similar, but is a race veteran. It is infinitely more time consuming and expensive to replace the stock stuff with aftermarket or fabbed pieces, so most of the rigs racing in this class race after race are using mostly OEM body parts. Hoods and bedsides are the exception. If you run a fiberglass roof panel, the SCORE rules do require you use a metal panel attached to the cage, or you can use a webbing material like they use for the window nets.

[3amigo]

I went back and studied the Garage Queen post, it was a big help.

I planned to keep the stock body tub intact when I started this build for the exact reasons that Moss listed. It still is probably the most sensable way to proceed. The thought of doing a custom firewall, floor, etc is a huge job. I'm not sure that I want to go down that road.

I started to want to do the body more like the garage queen when I started to desgn the cage. It seems like it would be much easier to build the cage and get it welded up properly if the body isn't in the way. I still haven't decided which way I will go. It probably depends on my mood for that day.

I hope to have it right side up and on its wheels this week. Get the motor and tranny mounted up, and get working on the cage.

[straightaxle]

You are right, that is a factor on how to get the welds all the way around on the cage. Either leave some big gaps between the cage and body, make the weld joints come out in easy to get to places, or cut the roof off prior to finish welding. This is probably one of the most common reasons for race cars to fail tech. The roof is really pretty easy to weld back on , and most of the high end pre-runners do it this way. We do recommend attaching the body to the cage in some way, or it will break and come apart.

[AngerIssues]

We do recommend attaching the body to the cage in some way, or it will break and come apart.

Guarantee it will start to break into pieces (the body... if not attached to the cage). I don't think I made it maybe 3 races before my body started to come apart.

[3amigo]

Thanks for the tips guys. I appreciate all the help that is available here.

[azdirtworx]

sorry to thow in my penny here too.... I really appreciate all you fellas out there willing to lend a hand and advice....props to you all!!!!:)

[Yikes]

I'm gonna latch onto this thread. Can the body mounts that are riveted to the frame be relocated, or is it considered part of the frame?

[Ckrue689]

I moved my rear mounts forward and my front mouns are gone all together. Had a buddy of mine who is a score tech take a gander at my work, he told me that If I had actually made the cage out of Chromoly Id be score legal...Ill double check my rulebook though...

[AngerIssues]

I moved my rear mounts forward and my front mouns are gone all together. Had a buddy of mine who is a score tech take a gander at my work, he told me that If I had actually made the cage out of Chromoly Id be score legal...Ill double check my rulebook though...

Guys, I'm not aware of ANY rules that specify where the body mounts need to be. Who cares, honestly? I'm not looking at the rule book.... but I wouldn't lose any sleep about someone saying... "hey dude, those body mounts aren't factory".. (??). who cares. go race.

kw

[straightaxle]

Body mounts are open, and are not considered the frame. Same with cross members. The "frame" is just the two rails. From the rule book, tubing may be 4130 or ASTM 1018/1026 CDS/DOM.

[Grimm]

So how and where do you attach the body to the cage?? I just can't picture it.

[Blanco]

So how and where do you attach the body to the cage?? I just can't picture it.

Typically A & B pillars Along the cage tube. & Mines attached where the cage tubes go through the floor & firewall in 8 places.

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/humm_smilie.gif Note to self, I really need to connect the body at the A & B pillars the bodys cracked at the B pillars right now.