Class 3 Cup 2009 Final Schedule

[AngerIssues]

I apologize for the lack of postings, I'm fortunate enough to be busy during a tight economy, but long hours and commuting 1.5 hours each way doesn't leave much time for surfing and posting when I get home...

Nonetheless, the majority of the people involved with the Class 3 Cup are still excited about a schedule that allows us to choose some of our favorite races and hopefully have more competition at these races!

Here is the final schedule for the 2009 Class 3 Cup. This was crafted from hundreds of postings and e-mails on the subject. Each racer is only allowed to race five of these races (for points). Your FIRST five, that is. Also, ONLY FOUR RACES go towards the year-end Cup. So, if you have a crummy race, drop it and go on!

Remember, the Cup schedule gives additional points for each racer you beat, so choose your races carefully. If you enjoy cheaper races, choose accordingly. If you enjoy high-profile, more expensive races, go for those. Either way, please do your best to try to hit at least 4 races so we have a great showing next year.

I'm thrilled that the Vorra and CODE races fit the calendar perfectly, once the schedules were finalized. I think it's great that we are spreading the Class 3 love around to almost every promoter!

1 SNORE Mint 400 Las Vegas, NV 400 March 26-29
2 MDR Mojave 250 Barstow, CA April 4
3 VORRA - Yerrington 300 - Yerrington, NV: May 23-25
4 BORE Jackpot 250 Jackpot, NV June 26 and 27
5 BITD TSCO Vegas to Reno Nevada 1000 August 19-23
6 Whiplash Snowflake Bash - Heber (UT?) - Sept, 4-6
7 CODE Mexican Logistics 300, Mexicali, BC - Oct 2-4
8 SCORE Baja 1000 Loop race - Ensenda BC, Nov 19-22


I will create an additional posting restating the rules, points, and sponsorships!

There will be additional considerations for SSWB (super short wheel-base). Anyone racing less than 100 inches of WB will gain additional points next year for any vehicle they beat.

Further, there will be a rule addressing longer wheel-based vehicles for any event we end up racing against them.

I hope to see you at the Class 3 Cup races next year. If you cannot race, or choose not to, come help your fellow racers!!!

Ken

Please post here for public feedback. For private, either PM me or use
class3cup@hotmail.com

[AngerIssues]

Another thought...

Many of the teams have already indicated what races they plan on running. This would be a great place to repost this information and only helps us ALL out. If it is known that a great turnout is expected for a certain race, it encourages others to go there (win-win!).

If, however, no single team plans on racing a certain race... it only helps out other racers who also might choose to skip that race, rather than show up to race by themselves (lose-lose). You can, however, still get points for finishing a Class 3 Cup race alone... starting and finishing only.

[tnt]

the mdr dash on new years,IT will be a big turnout of all classes,I spoke with doug from drive racing he said that they whould be stoked to see a class3 field at there first race, I dont know what the payback whold be.

[fj40]

I opened a thread it in the Mexican forum:
http://www.racing.com.mx/cgi/foro/index.php?topic=19077.0

Many are going to like that a CODE race is included.

[Grimm]

I think the Snowflake race is in Arizona. This might be our first race, however I'd like to do V to R, just don't think we can logistically plan it as a first race.

[Blanco]

I opened a thread it in the Mexican forum:
http://www.racing.com.mx/cgi/foro/index.php?topic=19077.0

Many are going to like that a CODE race is included.
Thanks for showing your support & I loved all the Pics you posted. :D
This one my Buddy Mike Duncan.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z249/tioernesto_2007/07stuckbuttercup.jpg

[straightaxle]

I think the Snowflake race is in Arizona. This might be our first race, however I'd like to do V to R, just don't think we can logistically plan it as a first race.

The V2R is going to be a tough one. 2009, SCORE is going to have another loop race for the 1000 to keep the costs down, and BITD is going to have a 3 day long V2R race!

[Joe Rockhead]

And who remembers the 6 day Nevada 2000? That was great. Unlicensed race cars and dirt bikes driving up Interstate 15 to the start line at Apex Road from the Orleans Hotel. Years later,I asked Casey how he pulled that off.He laughed and gave a response like,just need to know some people!

[AngerIssues]

I think the Snowflake race is in Arizona. This might be our first race, however I'd like to do V to R, just don't think we can logistically plan it as a first race.


Just my two cents, speaking from experience... pick a cheap, fun, short race as your first.

400 miles in the NV Desert where you probably can't chase... and twice the price... well, you get the picture.

[Grimm]

Just my two cents, speaking from experience... pick a cheap, fun, short race as your first.

400 miles in the NV Desert where you probably can't chase... and twice the price... well, you get the picture.


Ya, thats why we are leaning towards the Snowflake race. Its cheap, semi close to Colorado, and loop race that sounds pretty fun. IF we can get the truck together in 2009, it won't be until the second half of the year and the Snowflake race is the only Class 3 Cup race that fits the bill. Our other option is to run Primm 300. We will have to get the cage SCORE tagged at some point.

[straightaxle]

Just my two cents, speaking from experience... pick a cheap, fun, short race as your first.

400 miles in the NV Desert where you probably can't chase... and twice the price... well, you get the picture.

All of the races are fun! I was just trying to emphasize that the V2R will be a 3 day, 900+ mile event in 2009. Grimm, are you pulling that truck from Florida or Colorado? Our first race was the 1700 mile 2000 race, but there was no way in the world I was going to miss it. We didn't have 40 miles on the new truck. It took a very generous time allowance (that we used most of) and a huge amount of work to get to the finish line, but we did. The BITD races do not allow you to take your chase vehicles on the course. There are fixed pit locations only, 40 to 60 miles apart.

[AngerIssues]

All of the races are fun! I was just trying to emphasize that the V2R will be a 3 day, 900+ mile event in 2009. Grimm, are you pulling that truck from Florida or Colorado? Our first race was the 1700 mile 2000 race, but there was no way in the world I was going to miss it. We didn't have 40 miles on the new truck. It took a very generous time allowance (that we used most of) and a huge amount of work to get to the finish line, but we did. The BITD races do not allow you to take your chase vehicles on the course. There are fixed pit locations only, 40 to 60 miles apart.


All I was trying to say... is rather than choose a long race for starters... and be totally strapped for time trying to make it... consider a shorter race and maybe later in the year. A big reason I say this is that I personally was NOT ready for my first race. The bumper fell off, the exhaust fell off... We would have made it though, had the oil pick-up filter not kept getting clogged with junk in the bottom of the pan. We couldn't keep the oil pressure up. Yes... all of them are fun! (some are just more fun FOR THE MONEY than others).

[Grimm]

I totally understand what you guys are saying. I think any race we enter is gonna be a blast. We are gonna be crunched for time, money and resources by the time the truck is ready. Not only do we have to get it prepped, but we have got to get it out there! I'm planning towing it out from CO to whatever race, but first it has to get to CO, which in and of itself will likely be a pricey venture, either by a transport company or by me towing it out from FL. Probably a grand + either way. Right now we have a very small crew, maybe 4 or 5 people and none of which are incredibly mechanically inclined. Needless to say it is an up hill battle to get to a race in in 2009.:D

We might make a trip out to the MINT just to watch and get a feel for everything. Maybe chase for one of you guys. I hope that we will not be the only Class 3 at Snowflake, if it ends up being our first race.

[bajascott]

the snowflake race is in arizona.it is a fun course and very high speed.some technical sections.
they run throught the pits and in field at like 25mph. whiplash is not very organized but they are a great group of people..i raced they 2007 season in a 1450 truck.
they are getting a 400 mile race together in rocky point mexico set to raced in may.
and the wickenburg races are great also.
im glad to see something yearington! thats alot closer to me !!!i can offer soem help to anyone running that race.

[Grimm]

What day does the Mint 400 start,Friday or Sat. morning? What day is contingency? If I got out there on thursday afternoon and left sunday night, would I still be able to catch contingency and most of the race just to watch or chase? Just trying to plan this early. Thanks

[Joe Rockhead]

The Mint runs on Saturday, with Tech on Friday. However I think they did some stuff on Thursday last year for early arrivals with appointments or some such thing. Are you coming from Florida? You will be able to do the whole thing with your schedule.It is a lot of fun.And the course is supposed to be north of town, like the old days.

[Grimm]

Ya, planning on flying into Vegas and renting a car or SUV for the weekend. Now, just got to decide where to stay, Primm or the Strip

[Joe Rockhead]

If it is north of town, you will want to stay on the strip. I'm sure some of the host/sponsor hotels are downtown, but its a little sketchy down there.:rolleyes:

[AngerIssues]

Ya, planning on flying into Vegas and renting a car or SUV for the weekend. Now, just got to decide where to stay, Primm or the Strip


Don't stay at Primm, if the race is on the North side of town. I know the Native Americans have made this side difficult for BITD in the past... so we shall see.

If you want safer parking with lots of room... try an outlying casino - like Sunset Station or even the SouthPoint... (Gaughan's place - he helps the sport a lot). It is a VERY nice place and cheap - just about 20 minutes possibly the wrong direction.

Staying downtown or any "fancy" casinos and I have NO idea where you will park your rigs. If you only have 1 pre-runner/normal car, none of this matters... except the older structures down-town are VERY low and you may not fit in there.

Traffic on the 15 is a total MESS in Vegas right now - construction and too many cars. It was taking 30 minutes to go about 3 miles last weekend, no joke.

If the race IS "north"... try the Cannery, but any where you go in Vegas... lock up everything and take everything out you can. The gambling plus the crack has made crime pretty rampant. Anything not bolted down (or even bolted down!) is at risk. Don't get me wrong, I love the town, it's my home-town... but high crime.

[Blanco]

If the race IS "north"... try the Cannery, but any where you go in Vegas... lock up everything and take everything out you can. The gambling plus the crack has made crime pretty rampant. Anything not bolted down (or even bolted down!) is at risk. Don't get me wrong, I love the town, it's my home-town... but high crime.
Sounds like our odds are better in Baja? :cool:
Being a Rental car dont worry about it. :rolleyes:
Just take your stuff to your room & its safe.
I personally have become found of the Sahara Hotel/Casino. :)

I've liked the cheap price's & had some great luck gambling there.
& its on the strip, & after & before the race you'll have more fun there. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/m2c.gif

[wiley-moeracing]

Buy all means make the snowflake race, It is a good race to start out with, not to hard on equipment but still a challenge. If you show up I will get my truck ready for it and hope to get more of the class 3 guys to show up and put on a good show!!! Please contact me for info. Great camping and there is best western hotel close by.

[Joe Rockhead]

How far is that race from Flagstaff? Maybe a side trip to the Grand Canyon?

[Grimm]

Ya, I got the vacation time all planned out, just waiting on our radius arms to come in before we can finish the front suspension. Why is it when companies say it will take 2-3 weeks does that always mean 2-3 months?:rolleyes: I will give you a call when it gets closer and we know for sure were gonna make it. That would be sweet.

[AngerIssues]

Buy all means make the snowflake race, It is a good race to start out with, not to hard on equipment but still a challenge. If you show up I will get my truck ready for it and hope to get more of the class 3 guys to show up and put on a good show!!! Please contact me for info. Great camping and there is best western hotel close by.


This is one that I've always wanted to race... and for now anyway, will tentatively put this on my calendar to show up at...

look forward to racing with whomever can make it!!

[vistaracing1]

sounds like class 3 cup is doing well, thats good to hear, hope to join before the country goes bankrupt!

[AngerIssues]

sounds like class 3 cup is doing well, thats good to hear, hope to join before the country goes bankrupt!

Hope to see you out there!! One of the things that we have had pretty limited feedback on... is whether we

a) charge a fee to joing the "cup series" and therefore compete for it.. whether it's bragging rights or money..

b) put money on the side for each race...at least the smaller cheaper events. The larger events like BITD and SCORE already have enough riding on them.. so Class 3 Points and bragging rights is just a bonus on top of promoter money

c) whether we rely on sponsors... we had very little help last year getting sponsors to the table.

d) probably some combo of all of the above.

If every person brough 1 sponsor with 500 bucks into the program for the year, we could really make something of this.

I don't want to punish anyone, however, who might only be able to race ONE race and can't contend for the year-end points however?

At this point... the plan would be to add 100 bucks per racer for any MDR, MORE, BORE, Vorra, (etc) race... but any SCORE or BITD race... no extra side pot, because the majority want to race in the PRO classes, not sportsman (unless the promoter doesn't have a pro-class... then we are back to the side pot).

If anyone doesn't want to race for the side pot, we could still let them garnish points for the cup.

Ken