NORRA 1000 mile baja race!

[Broncodawg]

Interesting possibilities for old iron racers!

NORRA Revives Vintage Mexican 1000 Sep 16-20, 2009

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From www.norra.com:

VINTAGE OFF ROAD VEHICLES / MOTORCYCLES (1955-1975) AND ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES ONLY!

The National Off Road Racing Association (NORRA) is proud to present the 2009 NORRA Revival of the 1967 Mexican 1000 Rally. This event, "Honoring the Past, Forging the Future", will be held September 16-20, 2009 and will start at Ensenada, Mx, overnight at Bay of LA, overnight at Loreto, and end at La Paz, Mx .

The 2009 Revival of the 1967 Mexican 1000 Rally is a Stage Rally with Vintage and Alternative Fuel Vehicle Classes. The liaison and special stage course (paved and technical) will be specifically selected to accommodate vintage race vehicles from the 1950-1970's era. We want you to have fun but also keep your vehicles and bodies intact while testing your driving ability.

Please review the rules and format of the rally below. Submit your entry form and fee directly through the website, www.norra.com. Or Mail to: NORRA, 11650 Darling Rd., Agua Dulce, CA 91390. Entries accepted after September 1st are subject to an additional $250.00 Late Processing Fee. No Driver Packets will be mailed after September 1st.

OK. Now Let's Have Fun!

RALLY SCHEDULE AND RULES OF THE (OFF)-ROAD:
Contingency & Registration - Sept 16, 2009
Rally - Sept 17, 18, 19, 2009
Award Ceremony/Party in LaPaz - Sept 20, 2009

-Three-day stage rally on a secret route.
-There will NO pre-running.
-Competitors will receive their route book, GPS information, and starting positions the night before the event at the driver's meeting.
-On the morning of the start of each day's stage, NORRA staff will send out a pre-runner to clear the course.
-The first vehicles off the line will be the motorcycles at 6am sharp. All vehicles need to be ready to race and in line 15 minutes before their starting time.
-After the first motorcycle is sent off, there will be 30-second intervals before the second vehicle is sent on the course, and so on.
-After the last motorcycle is on the course, the other vehicle categories will start; Cat1, Cat 2, Cat 3, and so on...
Category 11, the Alternative Fuel Vehicles, will finish out the vehicle categories.
-After the final vehicles are on course, NORRA Officials will send a sweep vehicle to clear the course and assist with any issues.
-During the event, vehicles will be traveling liaison stages to special stage sections. Liaison stages are not competition stages, so speed limits will apply.
-All vehicles will be equipped with a black box to monitor traveling speeds as well as location on route at all times. Vehicles not obeying local speed limits will be disqualified from the event.
-The liaison stages will have a time limit to reach the next special stage, giving ample time to arrive at the stage start. By following the speed limits and staying on route, teams will have no problem getting to the next stage with time to prep for that special stage.
-Deviations from the liaison route are not allowed. Penalties and possible disqualification may apply during liaison stages by arriving too early showing that a vehicle has not obeyed local speed limits or deviated from the liaison route (as confirmed by black box GPS positioning).
-Upon arrival at special stages, vehicles will be lined up and started in order of arrival at the stage start, then released at 30-second intervals. This format will continue at all special stages through to the final stage of the day.
-Special stages will be timed individually and totaled throughout the entire event.
-Penalties will be added at the stage they were incurred.
-At the end of the day's stages when vehicles cross the final stage finish, they will be directed to a compound area where they will remain until the following day's start.
-The compound area will be fenced off and guarded during the entire time the event is in a bivouac.
-No one will be allowed into the compound area without proper credentials. The idea behind the compounding of the vehicles is to provide a safe and secure place to work on team vehicles and to build camaraderie between teams, plus a location that spectators can view the vehicles and their teams at work.
-Teams will be allowed to work on their vehicles through the night if need be. Teams and vehicles must be ready to race 15 minutes prior to their official start time.
-Australian start rules may apply, which means that the last vehicle in on the final stage of the previous day will be the first vehicle out the following morning. At the discretion of the NORRA OFFICIALS, the starting rules may change. The starting format will be announced each night at the driver's meeting, when the route books and GPS information for the following day's competition are issued.
-Everybody needs to be ready to rally at day's start.
-We will follow this format to the end of the final stage and into La Paz, where the final stage will take us into town for the official finish.
-After crossing the Finish Line, the vehicles will go back into the compound area until the final vehicle has finished the event.
-The compound area will remain open and available for teams to keep their vehicles secure after the end of the event for 5 days. At $20.00 per day charge. This will allow teams that want to see the sights of Baja do so knowing that their vehicles and trailers will be safe.

The Mexican 1000 Rally is designed to be a Fun Event, Honoring the past, and those that raced for the love of racing, and Forging the Future of Alternative Fuel Racing. We are very excited at NORRA to present to you an opportunity to take part in this special event and we look forward to seeing you in Mexico. Let's Party in La Paz!

Ken Cameron
Rally Master/Chief Technical Officer
NORRA Since 1967, "Honoring the past, Forging the Future"
http://www.norra.com/

Entry Fee $875

ENTRY FORM AND OTHER INFO AT http://www.norra.com/

[retroblazer]

Perfect for an early Bronco. Or Ron's Hickey truck !

[Norra 1000]

I just installed the new motor and tranny right before Vegas, The truck is 100% ready if i can find the time:D

[toddz69]

Interesting possibilities for old iron racers!

NORRA Revives Vintage Mexican 1000 Sep 16-20, 2009

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From www.norra.com:

VINTAGE OFF ROAD VEHICLES / MOTORCYCLES (1955-1975) AND ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES ONLY!

The National Off Road Racing Association (NORRA) is proud to present the 2009 NORRA Revival of the 1967 Mexican 1000 Rally. This event, "Honoring the Past, Forging the Future", will be held September 16-20, 2009 and will start at Ensenada, Mx, overnight at Bay of LA, overnight at Loreto, and end at La Paz, Mx .

The 2009 Revival of the 1967 Mexican 1000 Rally is a Stage Rally with Vintage and Alternative Fuel Vehicle Classes. The liaison and special stage course (paved and technical) will be specifically selected to accommodate vintage race vehicles from the 1950-1970's era. We want you to have fun but also keep your vehicles and bodies intact while testing your driving ability.

Please review the rules and format of the rally below. Submit your entry form and fee directly through the website, www.norra.com. Or Mail to: NORRA, 11650 Darling Rd., Agua Dulce, CA 91390. Entries accepted after September 1st are subject to an additional $250.00 Late Processing Fee. No Driver Packets will be mailed after September 1st.

OK. Now Let's Have Fun!

RALLY SCHEDULE AND RULES OF THE (OFF)-ROAD:
Contingency & Registration - Sept 16, 2009
Rally - Sept 17, 18, 19, 2009
Award Ceremony/Party in LaPaz - Sept 20, 2009

-Three-day stage rally on a secret route.
-There will NO pre-running.
-Competitors will receive their route book, GPS information, and starting positions the night before the event at the driver's meeting.
-On the morning of the start of each day's stage, NORRA staff will send out a pre-runner to clear the course.
-The first vehicles off the line will be the motorcycles at 6am sharp. All vehicles need to be ready to race and in line 15 minutes before their starting time.
-After the first motorcycle is sent off, there will be 30-second intervals before the second vehicle is sent on the course, and so on.
-After the last motorcycle is on the course, the other vehicle categories will start; Cat1, Cat 2, Cat 3, and so on...
Category 11, the Alternative Fuel Vehicles, will finish out the vehicle categories.
-After the final vehicles are on course, NORRA Officials will send a sweep vehicle to clear the course and assist with any issues.
-During the event, vehicles will be traveling liaison stages to special stage sections. Liaison stages are not competition stages, so speed limits will apply.
-All vehicles will be equipped with a black box to monitor traveling speeds as well as location on route at all times. Vehicles not obeying local speed limits will be disqualified from the event.
-The liaison stages will have a time limit to reach the next special stage, giving ample time to arrive at the stage start. By following the speed limits and staying on route, teams will have no problem getting to the next stage with time to prep for that special stage.
-Deviations from the liaison route are not allowed. Penalties and possible disqualification may apply during liaison stages by arriving too early showing that a vehicle has not obeyed local speed limits or deviated from the liaison route (as confirmed by black box GPS positioning).
-Upon arrival at special stages, vehicles will be lined up and started in order of arrival at the stage start, then released at 30-second intervals. This format will continue at all special stages through to the final stage of the day.
-Special stages will be timed individually and totaled throughout the entire event.
-Penalties will be added at the stage they were incurred.
-At the end of the day's stages when vehicles cross the final stage finish, they will be directed to a compound area where they will remain until the following day's start.
-The compound area will be fenced off and guarded during the entire time the event is in a bivouac.
-No one will be allowed into the compound area without proper credentials. The idea behind the compounding of the vehicles is to provide a safe and secure place to work on team vehicles and to build camaraderie between teams, plus a location that spectators can view the vehicles and their teams at work.
-Teams will be allowed to work on their vehicles through the night if need be. Teams and vehicles must be ready to race 15 minutes prior to their official start time.
-Australian start rules may apply, which means that the last vehicle in on the final stage of the previous day will be the first vehicle out the following morning. At the discretion of the NORRA OFFICIALS, the starting rules may change. The starting format will be announced each night at the driver's meeting, when the route books and GPS information for the following day's competition are issued.
-Everybody needs to be ready to rally at day's start.
-We will follow this format to the end of the final stage and into La Paz, where the final stage will take us into town for the official finish.
-After crossing the Finish Line, the vehicles will go back into the compound area until the final vehicle has finished the event.
-The compound area will remain open and available for teams to keep their vehicles secure after the end of the event for 5 days. At $20.00 per day charge. This will allow teams that want to see the sights of Baja do so knowing that their vehicles and trailers will be safe.

The Mexican 1000 Rally is designed to be a Fun Event, Honoring the past, and those that raced for the love of racing, and Forging the Future of Alternative Fuel Racing. We are very excited at NORRA to present to you an opportunity to take part in this special event and we look forward to seeing you in Mexico. Let's Party in La Paz!

Ken Cameron
Rally Master/Chief Technical Officer
NORRA Since 1967, "Honoring the past, Forging the Future"
http://www.norra.com/

Entry Fee $875

ENTRY FORM AND OTHER INFO AT http://www.norra.com/

And here's a great video from that site:

http://www.norra.com/heroes_video.php

Todd Z.

[Norra 1000]

After taking a look at the home page for the NORRA 1000 i saw 2 photos of my Vic Hickey built James Garner driven 1970 Olds 442, I think its time to bring the 442 out, I will plan on running the the Olds 442 at that event, If i can afford it i will bring the 1969 Hickey truck also, But $$ is tight building the new Race Blazer so time will tell

[petepecas]

After taking a look at the home page for the NORRA 1000 i saw 2 photos of my Vic Hickey built James Garner driven 1970 Olds 442, I think its time to bring the 442 out, I will plan on running the the Olds 442 at that event, If i can afford it i will bring the 1969 Hickey truck also, But $$ is tight building the new Race Blazer so time will tell

Do you have a roll cage on the 69 Pick up?
I think you are required to add one and a fuel cell.

[Norra 1000]

I have a cage that came in the truck and the two 25 gallon steel fuel cells in the bed, If i cannot run the truck like it is i will not take it, I WILL NOT CHANGE THE TRUCK to make it to any event, But my 442 had a full cage and a 50 gallon settl can bladder fuel cell, That ones good

[Blanco]

And here's a great video from that site:

http://www.norra.com/heroes_video.php

Todd Z.

That was an awesome clip!
Thanks for posting the link Todd! http://bestsmileys.com/clapping/1.gif

[petepecas]

So, IF your curent cage meets regulations, you would maybe run the 69?
That would be so much fun.
I will probably enter my 71 f250 crewcab, sounds like it will be a relaxed and fun event.:)

[Norra 1000]

Tech just OKed me to run the 69 truck and the 70 Olds 442, Cliff Coleman the original driver of the 69 truck will drive the truck and i will drive the 442

[vistaracing1]

looks like a blast! pack the kidney belt and have some fun.

[Norra 1000]

The only changes i will make to the truck and car is shock and tire upgrades, I want to get the best ride i can and i will run General tires on both,I know back in the day they ran Goodyear but i want to make my sponcer happy and the tires are free ,that helps with brownie points

[Norra 1000]

The cut off year for race trucks and cars was first set for 1975 and older, I have been lucky to be helping the staff from NORRA, If they allowed the cut off year to be moved to 1985 or 1989 how mant people from this site would attend, We would like to get 300 to attend this event, This is a once in a life time event and they are even going to film a feature documentary on the history of the Baja 1000 and NORRA, and this entire race , Please give me your input on this race and lets see how many people we can get fron Class 3 to attend the NORRA 1000

[Yikes]

cliff coleman the original driver of the 69 truck will drive the truck and i will drive the 442


nice!!!

[Norra 1000]

One very cool thing about this epic event is when Mike Pearlman found out i had the James Garner 442 and planned on running the car the entire 1000 miles he told me about the high end Documentary and sence Iam going to debut the car at the event they were excited and wanted to make the 442 a big part of the event and the film so i have the production full acess to use the car so now during the final restoration of the car iam building camera mounts for the film crew to use, NORRA version of Dust To Glory:D I might even put a Class 3 Racing sticker of the car to show my support for all Class 3 members!, Like that Cam:eek:

[bajabum]

The cut off year for race trucks and cars was first set for 1975 and older, I have been lucky to be helping the staff from NORRA, If they allowed the cut off year to be moved to 1985 or 1989 how mant people from this site would attend, We would like to get 300 to attend this event, This is a once in a life time event and they are even going to film a feature documentary on the history of the Baja 1000 and NORRA, and this entire race , Please give me your input on this race and lets see how many people we can get fron Class 3 to attend the NORRA 1000

if they had the cut off date moved up to 85 and older i think we would have at least 3 trucks qualified to run this event.

[Norra 1000]

What trucks would you run, I could use that info to help and who is going to drive, What about your Dad?, Rod Hall has some interest in this event also so this should be a lot of fun

[Broncodawg]

Good job by you helping to build this cool event.
Need a codawg or chase help?

[Blanco]

I might even put a Class 3 Racing sticker of the car to show my support for all Class 3 members!, Like that Cam:eek:

Give me your Addy & lets me know what color ( probably white ) would stand out best making it easier to read.

PM me your address. :cool:

[Norra 1000]

Broncodawg, We can use your help, right now are group will be Me my brother Rick, Liam Cliff Coleman, We will be running the car and truck, We will have Liams truck and car trailer for a chase rig, Its a 4 door 4X4

[Norra 1000]

Its official the cut off year has been moved to 1989 for this event:eek:, There are a lot of FORD's on this site that are 100% ready to run now, So send in your entry and lets have fun:D

[flyinbronco]

I just heard a certain friend of mine, who shall remain nameless at this time, intends on entering a certain El Camino in this event. I must say I am shocked and excited at the same time. Looks like there's another trip to Mexico in my future.

[Norra 1000]

Have your friend give me a call or PM me, I would like to talk to him about the event and any one else can call me with info or questions Ron Johnson 253-592-2477

[Blanco]

Ron e-mailed me this, Yet I'm surprized he did'nt post it. :confused:

http://www.villanosracing.com/baja-1000-1967

[petepecas]

Wow!, a Rambler, I wonder how far down those ladies made it on what my Mom used to drive...that was an adventure.

[toddz69]

I just heard a certain friend of mine, who shall remain nameless at this time, intends on entering a certain El Camino in this event. I must say I am shocked and excited at the same time. Looks like there's another trip to Mexico in my future.

Jordan's old El Camino?

Todd Z.

[fj40]

Ron e-mailed me this, Yet I'm surprized he did'nt post it. :confused:

http://www.villanosracing.com/baja-1000-1967

It´s a great find any way... thanks both.

[flyinbronco]

Jordan's old El Camino?

Todd Z.

Nope.

But it last raced during that era.

any more guesses?

[toddz69]

Nope.

But it last raced during that era.

any more guesses?

I'll have to think of some more :)

Todd Z.

[Norra 1000]

Here are some of my original NORRA patches, The most rare it the 1967 1000 and the black NORRA Jacket back large patch and black decals, Iam going to build a white jacket the same as James Garner had and put all these patches on it for when i run the 442 at the 1000, And i just got back home from Ventura from getting the original ram air hood that was on the 1970 Hickey-Garner 442, hat was a rare find

[Norra 1000]

Here is the 100% original hood that was on the 442, I was very happy to get the original hood, But i did not like the $3000.00 price tag, But its worth it in the long run

[toddz69]

Here is the 100% original hood that was on the 442, I was very happy to get the original hood, But i did not like the $3000.00 price tag, But its worth it in the long run

Can you tell us how you found it, where it has been all these years, etc.?

$3000 - yikes. I guess I shouldn't have given away that original Stroppe racing Bronco hood a few weeks ago.....

Todd Z.

[Blanco]

Here is the 100% original hood that was on the 442, I was very happy to get the original hood, But i did not like the $3000.00 price tag,





http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/185222/fullsize/new_shocked.gif $3000.00!?!?!

Whats it made of?

[Norra 1000]

Its a factory 1970 Olds 442 w-25 hood, They were fiberglass on top with a metal inner frame, The factory 1970 Ram Air hoods sell for around $2500.00 to $3000.00 for a good condition hood, This guy charged me the going rate, He did not know i needed it for the original car it was on when Garner raced Baja in 1969, To me the hood was worth a lot more then $3000.00 but it still hurt to spend it on a 40 year old hood

[Blanco]

To me the hood was worth a lot more then $3000.00 but it still hurt to spend it on a 40 year old hood

Yeah! I bet! :cool:

[Norra 1000]

Todd, How i found this old stuff is, I talked to Mark Mendenhall who got all 3 442 cars after Hickey and Garner were done with them, Mark told me he sold all the left over Olds race car parts to Jerry in Ventura, I called him and met up with him, Thats when i first saw the hood and was told $3000.00, I wanted it but i had to wait, But he told me he bought all the parts for the Olds 442 parts for a restoration project, Then he showed me a bunch of suspension parts that were not for a Olds 442, The spindles were a lot bigger and the rotors were 5 on 5 bolt pattern and there were calipers and dust shields and a box of custom lower ball joints, He did a part # search and had no results and had no idea what they were for They were no use to him and he was getting ready to scrap them, As soon as i saw them i knew they were the spair race suspension for my 1970 Olds 442 then he told me i could have all the junk for FREE!!!!!!!! I about crapped and loaded it all up, So when the chassis is done i will use these Spindles-Rotors-Calipers on the 442, You cannot get any closer to original then that, Take a look at the 2nd photo, Thats a stock 442 spindle, I still cannot find out what the spindled were originally built for, After this killer parts find the $3000.00 i paid Jerry for the hood did not feel so bad, So Todd thats how i found the hood and other cool stuff

[Mike P]

So can you give us run down of the suspension set up?

[Norra 1000]

Iam still trying to figure out what the suspension is, I know the factory upper and lower a arm were reworked and has a lot of plating with tig welding, The lower ball joints are huge, We cannot figure out what the spindles are from but i have spairs, The a arm mounting points have been moved the top of the frame where the coil springs ride have big round steel plates on top and steel sleeves - Pipe that goes aroung the coils, I will take some photos of the suspension on the car when i blow it apart next week, Remember this car was built 40 years ago

[Mike P]

I asked about this car on racedezert awhile back, I thought it was one of the coolest race cars I've seen, I'm a fan of the vintage off road stuff, James Garner fan too!

[Norra 1000]

Thanks, Its my favorite race car also

[Norra 1000]

Todd are you going to have your Bronco ready for the 1000, It will be a easy run, If it was not easy i would not take the 442, NORRA needs people to enter, Who here at class 3 is thinking about entering the NORRA 1000, you dont have to pay the entry fee right away, Just enter now, Also they are going to be filming a major TV documentary about the 1000, Show up and you will make history and be on TV:D

[Blanco]

Hey Ron, Maybe I should change your Screen Name to Norra 1000? :D

[Norra 1000]

Maybe that would be better, Go ahead and change it if you want

[Blanco]

Maybe that would be better, Go ahead and change it if you want

http://bestsmileys.com/lol/5.gif Ok.... Its done.

[toddz69]

Todd, How i found this old stuff is, I talked to Mark Mendenhall who got all 3 442 cars after Hickey and Garner were done with them, Mark told me he sold all the left over Olds race car parts to Jerry in Ventura, I called him and met up with him, Thats when i first saw the hood and was told $3000.00, I wanted it but i had to wait, But he told me he bought all the parts for the Olds 442 parts for a restoration project, Then he showed me a bunch of suspension parts that were not for a Olds 442, The spindles were a lot bigger and the rotors were 5 on 5 bolt pattern and there were calipers and dust shields and a box of custom lower ball joints, He did a part # search and had no results and had no idea what they were for They were no use to him and he was getting ready to scrap them, As soon as i saw them i knew they were the spair race suspension for my 1970 Olds 442 then he told me i could have all the junk for FREE!!!!!!!! I about crapped and loaded it all up, So when the chassis is done i will use these Spindles-Rotors-Calipers on the 442, You cannot get any closer to original then that, Take a look at the 2nd photo, Thats a stock 442 spindle, I still cannot find out what the spindled were originally built for, After this killer parts find the $3000.00 i paid Jerry for the hood did not feel so bad, So Todd thats how i found the hood and other cool stuff

Great story, Ron! I love hearing stuff like this.

Todd Z.

[toddz69]

Todd are you going to have your Bronco ready for the 1000, It will be a easy run, If it was not easy i would not take the 442, NORRA needs people to enter, Who here at class 3 is thinking about entering the NORRA 1000, you dont have to pay the entry fee right away, Just enter now, Also they are going to be filming a major TV documentary about the 1000, Show up and you will make history and be on TV:D

I don't think we'll even try to get it ready. I'm always short on time, unfortunately, and the $$ just isn't there either. And working in my one car garage in Phoenix in the summer is the pits. I read through the rules a few days ago and I'd practically have to rebuild the truck to meet their requirements.

Todd Z.

[Broncodawg]

That's a shame Todd, need to have the EBs represented as they played such a key role in the NORRA days and beyond. Fully understand not being able to make it tho. If the NORRA 1K goes well, maybe next year? Any other EB owners looking at the event?

As far as the course being easy, read that NORRA is trying to use as much of old 1K courses as possible and altho speeds will be slower, I'd bet the course and the need to race atleast some, will still take it's toll on man and machine.

Want to help chase bad, if I can swing it.

[Norra 1000]

Todd, The vintage cars and trucks can pretty much run as they did the year they run, You have seen my 1969 Chevy truck, All they want is a window net added to my truck, Your Bronco would be very close but trust me i under stand about the heat and 1 car garage and most of all the $$ end, I put all my extra cash in building the Blazer then most sponcers backed out do the lastes $$ issue, So that ment more $$ from me, Then the NORRA thing came my way, I have 90 days to do a full frame off rebuild on the Garner 442 all the $$ comes out of my bank account and right now its a big fat 0, So what iam doing is you know i build race motors and Blowers for them so i went threw my shop and found 8 to 10 good blowers to build and thats where the 442 fund is made of, Iam doing polished aqnd satin blowers and Iam showing Liam how to build them so when he want a 671 for his 69 mustang he can build his own, Here are the last 2 we built 1 satin and 1 polished

[Blanco]

Congrats To Ron on getting his name in INK! :)
I just read the norra 1000 race article in Dirt Sports & saw that they mentioned you by name & what your bringing.

[Norra 1000]

Yea that was good that they had that info on us, I guess now i really have to get the 442 there

[Norra 1000]

As you know my story on how i found my 69 truck and the 442 was a once in a lifetime find, Then i found the original hood, Now i called Mondello racing engines because they built motors for Hickey, I had a few long talkes with them and they told me they had a lot of original olds parts from the 69 70 Hickey era, Then i received a call from them on Friday, They found the original build paperwork and the 69 442 pre runner had a 350 olds, The Banshee had a 350 olds first then a all aluminum 455 olds, My 1970 442 came with a factory 350 olds but during the factory Olds racing program the power to be at Olds factory racing had built a prototype 403 Olds racing engine for my car, It was way ahead of its time, I wont bore you with the details but Mondello found the original back up 403 race enging for my car 100% new in the factory shipping crate with the paperwork, They also had a NOS prototype intake and stage 4 carb, I think that score will be great for my 442 restoration, Mondello will photograph every step of the build:D

[Broncodawg]

Wow, Just, Wow What a score! They better start making space for your car in the HOF in Reno, because it belongs there one day.

[toddz69]

Wow, Just, Wow What a score! They better start making space for your car in the HOF in Reno, because it belongs there one day.

X2. I am just amazed at all the old stuff you're finding around for your vehicles, Ron. Amazing.

Todd Z.

[Norra 1000]

I paid for the motor today, It turned out the motor was a 410ci Olds not a 403, it was a 403 block with trick factory stuff, I also got the ported intake and stage 4 carb and they found a set of original race heads for the 410, They were ported castings so the heads are being built next week, So it is a complete Mondello race engine, I was told in 1969 it made 500hp and 420 foot pounds of torque, That should move the old car, Iam happy i can put the 442 back in one piece with a lot of the original parts, I just want to preserve history right. I pick up the motor in two weeks

[Norra 1000]

Any time Rod Hall wants the car or truck in Reno at the Off Road Hall of Fame i will bring it or i will take them to the Petersons auto Museum

[retroblazer]

I'm liking this race more and more.

[retroblazer]

Who is going besides Ron? I am trying to go, so I'm hoping there are a few EB's to victimize.;)

[Broncodawg]

Now, now, it's not a race remember! I guess if you call blocking the course with a snapped front axle housing "victimizing" then so be it!
Wish I could come down, but between going to V2R and Primm, just can't pencil it in.
Have fun, sounds like a blast.

[toddz69]

Who is going besides Ron? I am trying to go, so I'm hoping there are a few EB's to victimize.;)

I'm hoping to attend the tech/start of it but you won't have any of my EBs to push out of the way this year :).

Todd Z.

[Broncodawg]

Anyone know if this is a one shot deal or will Todd be able to get his Stroppe in it next year?
Take alot of pics Todd.

[EGud]

Anyone know if this is a one shot deal or will Todd be able to get his Stroppe in it next year?
Take alot of pics Todd.

Damn straight Todd! maybe we should both race next year??? :D

[toddz69]

Damn straight Todd! maybe we should both race next year??? :D

Absolutely!

Todd Z.

[toddz69]

Anyone know if this is a one shot deal or will Todd be able to get his Stroppe in it next year?
Take alot of pics Todd.

If I make it, I will photo-document well. I think the answer to whether they'll do it again depends on how the first one goes. If it goes well and folks are enthused, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see it happen again.

Todd Z.

[AngerIssues]

Hey Ron, how is the race coming along? Something like 25 days now.

Any word on number of entries?

[Norra 1000]

Its getting closer, I received my new King shocks today, Thats the last big thing to get

[Blanco]

SCORE and Ensenada blocking a NORRA start in ensenada


Do you guys think NORRA has worked out the same backwards deals that SCORE works for us to be there and sell stuff/support the racers? I'm really afraid to go down there with product. I think we are all good and offiical with Immigration now, but customs is still a handshake deal and I think Oscar, Paul and Sal make that happen. There is no 'legit' way to get by customs and actually being there without a Mexican company selling stuff. Any thoughts? I would love to go, but don't know if it's worth the risk!!

All customs employees in the country (all of em) got fired a month ago, all new kids with college, i dont think they can pull it off, doubt sal could do it now either.


On a side note, Sal and Oscar did block the Ensenada start for this race, They pressured ensenada mayor to deny the ensenada start, or they would take away the 1000. When the venue changed to mexicali, they pressured the San Felipe tourism delegate threatening to take the SF 250 away. The Mexicali mayor said its a go, then they called Ecology department to see if their permits where in order, if not to please pressure them so the race wouldnt happen.
Biggest difference beetween NORRA and SCORE > Norra didnt ask for 1 cent, no 50 hotel rooms, no Ejido payment money, no payment for land use, no nada, and they are REALLY promoting Baja, not only racing, looks like a 2 hour documentary will be made out of this film, to maybe be shown on discovery channel.
Wonder what would happen if Baja denied SCORE to race baja, it would be the death of SCORE, but not of the baja 1000...

Cant supply sources, but theyre so good, im ashamed for the Ensenada mayor and State Tourism Secretary.

[straightaxle]

I find it hard to believe that Sal is trying to block NORRA's efforts. He really does not have the time or resources to do that, and I can't believe that any city in Baja would turn down bringing more folks in. I do agree that the negotiations are probably a long and complicated process. There is a process for vendors to bring stuff in, but you pay the import duty up front. BITD only tried running races down there for a very short time before they realized they were out of their element.

[Blanco]

Due to the hurricane that went through Baja, the NORRA event has been put off till April! :eek:

[Broncodawg]

Glad they postponed it as would be disespectful to the suffering locals to race thru there so soon after, IMHO.
Very cool to see the baja racing community rally to support the people down there.
At Primm contingency, PCI is taking donation boxes to deliver down there, so throw some stuff together and bring with you to Primm. Thanks,

[retroblazer]

I just got off the phone with Mike Noval of NORRA. The race is officially cancelled due to the mid-Baja hurricane damage. Looking at an April date.

[Yikes]

Sorry to hear this news. Not so much for the race, but the people who are suffering from the hurricane.


That being said....Alright Bill. Now get back on that Class 3 build! We're waiting patiently...or not.

[Blanco]

So how many others can we get to rush out to Primm now???


Raffo?

[bajabum]

just got word from my dad and grandpa yesterday we entered this race and are running our dodge pickup, for those that dont know is the same winning truck rod hall ran years ago in class 4 i believe

[Broncodawg]

Is that the truck that's painted the same as your 80s Ford prerunner?
Very cool history!
They need entries, try to talk pops into entering the Ford too, haha.
You going down for it?
Best of luck in the event!

[toddz69]

just got word from my dad and grandpa yesterday we entered this race and are running our dodge pickup, for those that dont know is the same winning truck rod hall ran years ago in class 4 i believe

Awesome! And of course we'd like to see pix of it.

And while we're making announcements, a very special Bronco that Rod used to race is also going to participate in the NORRA event as well.

Todd Z.

[locopny]

I so need to make this event.

[EGud]

Awesome! And of course we'd like to see pix of it.

And while we're making announcements, a very special Bronco that Rod used to race is also going to participate in the NORRA event as well.

Todd Z.

What? That is all you are going to say?

Ed G

[toddz69]

What? That is all you are going to say?

Ed G

Well, we haven't had a chance to put together any PR on it yet so I was holding off on an announcement here and on classic.

Chris Wilson and Glen Straightiff will be driving our Stroppe Bronco in the NORRA race in April. I am delivering the Bronco to Glen's shop in San Diego this weekend to begin the restoration/repairs/prep necessary to compete in such an event. Chris and Glen are handling all the work and in return get to drive a historically significant vehicle in the race/rally. Andrew and I end up with a Bronco that's essentially complete in terms of restoration, etc.

We believe it's a win/win situation for all parties involved.

Todd Z.

[EGud]

Well, we haven't had a chance to put together any PR on it yet so I was holding off on an announcement here and on classic.

Chris Wilson and Glen Straightiff will be driving our Stroppe Bronco in the NORRA race in April. I am delivering the Bronco to Glen's shop in San Diego this weekend to begin the restoration/repairs/prep necessary to compete in such an event. Chris and Glen are handling all the work and in return get to drive a historically significant vehicle in the race/rally. Andrew and I end up with a Bronco that's essentially complete in terms of restoration, etc.

We believe it's a win/win situation for all parties involved.

Todd Z.

Wow Todd! That is great news! Man, I need a deal like that for the HMS/Sealund bronco!

Ed G.

[retroblazer]

Since I'm in and out of Glen's shop, I was aware of the situation. It should be fun and I told him that I would honk twice before.......... Two EB's and one blazer so far.

[toddz69]

Since I'm in and out of Glen's shop, I was aware of the situation. It should be fun and I told him that I would honk twice before.......... Two EB's and one blazer so far.

Yeah, no nerfing please :).

PJ should be way out front of Chris/Glen in his Blazer.

Todd Z.

[offroadaction]

That is awesome Todd!

[Norra 1000]

Iam looking forward to the start, PJ got starting position #1 and i got #2 with the 442, We going to have fun, There nwill be several cameras mounted in my car, Iam going to film the entire race from inside the 442

[AngerIssues]

Iam looking forward to the start, PJ got starting position #1 and i got #2 with the 442, We going to have fun, There nwill be several cameras mounted in my car, Iam going to film the entire race from inside the 442

By the way... spoke with Coco last week. He's plenty pissed that NORRA decided to run this race past his place without a stop-over!! :p

he's doing great. one year ago when I went through with my dad, he was in ensenada getting his second leg lopped off. He gets around just fine. Here are photos of me and Lala with him and his "taxi"... which now sports a new Anger Issues Racing sticker on the back fender :D

Look for another write-up soon on my three trips to baja this fall.

[Blanco]

Bummer that he now has no legs... :(
Whats the story behind that?

[PWmtn]

By the way... spoke with Coco last week. He's plenty pissed that NORRA decided to run this race past his place without a stop-over!! :p

he's doing great. one year ago when I went through with my dad, he was in ensenada getting his second leg lopped off. He gets around just fine. Here are photos of me and Lala with him and his "taxi"... which now sports a new Anger Issues Racing sticker on the back fender :D

Look for another write-up soon on my three trips to baja this fall.
===
We were at Ranch Grande (Gonzaga store) last week and saw Coco driving his truck.
PW

[retroblazer]

The first leg was lost because of a car accident and the second I believe was diabetes.

[Blanco]

The first leg was lost because of a car accident and the second I believe was diabetes.
Sucks, From all I've heard about him, he seems like the nicest guy.

[Broncodawg]

Wow Todd, Win/Win I guess. Way to be in the right place at the right time!
Are you going to chase the bronco? If you've got an empty chase seat, let me know?

[toddz69]

Are you going to chase the bronco? If you've got an empty chase seat, let me know?

Yes, Andrew Norton and I are chasing the Bronco - driving Chris/Glen's Superduty and trailer. I believe there are others that interested in following the race down along the peninsula too - I'm sure there will some more plans made as the event draws closer!

Todd Z.

[AngerIssues]

===
We were at Ranch Grande (Gonzaga store) last week and saw Coco driving his truck.
PW

One year ago, the three of us (Lara, my dad, me) were in Coco's but he was off getting his other leg lopped off...

He told us the HILARIOUS story about how he drove that truck (before the hand controls were in) TO ENSENADA using sticks that he somehow fastened to the pedals. He got pulled over by a cop, who insisted he get out and explain why he was driving so poorly... He said, I can't get out sir. The cop leaned and said, what do you mean? When he saw... I guess he felt bad for asking him to step out of the car!! They let him go on his way to the hospital. It was very depressing being in Coco's Corner with no Coco!!

Back on topic, sorry. So is this RACE a RACE or NOT??? I"m hearing "no". Fun run?

[Norra 1000]

Here are a few photos showing some of the upgrades to the 442, Last week i had to make a decision on the original Olds 12 bolt, They are weak, 28 spline, cannot get parts, So i bought a new GM 12 bolt housing, Then i ordered a 35 spline floater set up to mount on the 12 bolt housing, I have been working with Sandy Cone on this one, I then ordered a 35 spline spool, I could have just put in a 40 spline 9" floater rear end but when people look under the rear on the car i want them to see a factory 12 bolt, Then i took the original spindles off the front and installed a new set of Speedway NASCAR style spindles with heavy duty Steel hubs, I pulled out the original fuel cell and sence this car had a 1 off fuel cell i had ATL custom build one thats 100% same spec as the original and i had a local sheet metal company build a perfect replacement steel can, Saftey is #1 with this car and i want to finish the race

[Norra 1000]

Here are a few photos of the 442 when i first got it, It has came a long way sence then

[Blanco]

Hey, Ron..........
Its been a while since you've posted anything about the race rigs & being ready to race the Norra? :confused:

You still on track?
Whats the latest?

[Norra 1000]

We are running a little behind, the updates on the car took a little more then i planned on, i will try to post some photos tonight, The car should be good when we finish it in two weeks, we will paint it next week, Right after the NORRA 1000 the car will go right to the Off-Road Hall of Fame display at the Harrahs auto collection for a few months

[Blanco]

We are running a little behind, the updates on the car took a little more then i planned on, i will try to post some photos tonight, The car should be good when we finish it in two weeks, we will paint it next week, Right after the NORRA 1000 the car will go right to the Off-Road Hall of Fame display at the Harrahs auto collection for a few months
So all your plans are still on track?
The truck will race & the car will race & I forget what ever else? :confused:

[Norra 1000]

Here are a few build photos

[Norra 1000]

Right now it looks like we will only take the 442 to the NORRA 1000, the cost to transport from Seattle to Baja then race and chase the truck and car was getting to much, So we just put all are funds and time in the 442 the truck is ready if we change are mind

[AngerIssues]

Right now it looks like we will only take the 442 to the NORRA 1000, the cost to transport from Seattle to Baja then race and chase the truck and car was getting to much, So we just put all are funds and time in the 442 the truck is ready if we change are mind


Sorry to see the hicky truck won't be there!! Oh well... focus on one entry and have more fun that way!!

I see that Raffo and I are entered. We are bringing "JoseBronco" along from Spain... as a guest on the Anger Issues Team.

Anyone else gunna make it? Chris and I are going to flat-tow (and drive) our racers home. I sure hope they are in one piece after the 1000 miles. The course looks way fun! (albiet a little "easy"... but fun nonetheless!!).

ken

[Gadzooks2]

Greg Adler has purchased Mike Schwellinger's 401 powered CJ-7 and will be racing it with Eric Heiden at the Norra 1000. The car is being prepped at the 4Wheel Parts race shop in Redondo beach and the pair have raced Baja together a number of times and finished the Baja 2000 in Eric's class 8.

[toddz69]

Greg Adler has purchased Mike Schwellinger's 401 powered CJ-7 and will be racing it with Eric Heiden at the Norra 1000. The car is being prepped at the 4Wheel Parts race shop in Redondo beach and the pair have raced Baja together a number of times and finished the Baja 2000 in Eric's class 8.

I'm so glad that Jeep went to a good home. It was for sale over here in the Phoenix area for a long time.

Todd Z.

[Gadzooks2]

Yeah, When I saw it at the shop it brought back a lot of memories.
I wish Greg and Eric a lot of luck and hope for a smooth trouble free trip.
I gave up on Mex after the 2007 race and won't be going back soon.:mad:

[retroblazer]

I would assume the Jeep is entered in class 5 production 4wd?

[AngerIssues]

I gave up on Mex after the 2007 race and won't be going back soon.:mad:

Sounds like you had really bad experience? Please tell us about it.

[toddz69]

Here's a shot of Ron's car he sent me tonight and asked me to post. It's on its way to Rod's shop now.

Todd Z.

[Gadzooks2]

The 1966 Movie "Grand Prix" was on the other night and it was amazing to see how good the photography was for those days. You could really see why every red blooded American guy wanted to be James Garner back then!:D

[Broncodawg]

Beautiful car! Post some pics of your Bronco Todd, bet it's looking pretty good right about now. Can't wait to see it!

[toddz69]

Beautiful car! Post some pics of your Bronco Todd, bet it's looking pretty good right about now. Can't wait to see it!

Here are some shots from the trailer last weekend and testing in Plaster City.

For anyone in San Diego, Chris plans to have it on display at Mastercraft for the Baja 500 draw party tomorrow.

Chris and Glen have done an absolutely incredible job on the restoration/repairs of the rig. All systems are go at this point. We plan to get the stickers on it early next week before we leave. We have repros of most of the vintage decals from the '72 1000 along with a few modern sponsor decals.

You'll hear them coming!! :-)

Todd Z.

[AngerIssues]

Here are some shots from the trailer last weekend and testing in Plaster City.




What a great find and a nice piece of history. Cán't wait to see it!!

[AngerIssues]

Here are a few photos of the 442 when i first got it, It has came a long way sence then

Wow. How the hell did you even know what you had? I guess I"d have to go back and read the whole history/thread.

Damn amazing - what an undertaking. I just ground off a little rust and applied some spray paint to mine today. Nothing like that!!!!

See ya soon!

[AngerIssues]

Here's a shot of Ron's car he sent me tonight and asked me to post. It's on its way to Rod's shop now.

Todd Z.

All I can say is I"m taking extra memory cards for the camera. I saw Swift's Stroppe-built EDSEL on the trailer a few days ago... I may have posted that already.

This race is going to have the coolest shiat ever!! I almost feel bad showing up in a mid-80's Bronco!!! (I said ALMOST!! he he) :D

[Blanco]

Here are some shots from the trailer last weekend and testing in Plaster City.

For anyone in San Diego, Chris plans to have it on display at Mastercraft for the Baja 500 draw party tomorrow.

Chris and Glen have done an absolutely incredible job on the restoration/repairs of the rig. All systems are go at this point. We plan to get the stickers on it early next week before we leave. We have repros of most of the vintage decals from the '72 1000 along with a few modern sponsor decals.

You'll hear them coming!! :-)

Todd Z.
You taking that to the FFF show? this tomorrow?

[Broncodawg]

Just WoW!! Can't wait to see it up close Todd....Yeehah!

[Clydesdale4x4]

Hell, I am in Idaho, with no intention or possibility of spectating at the least, and I am giddy and excited for all the retro iron, especially the pieces that have the unique racing history embedded within, run, place, finish.... Flaunt their stuff for one last time, or not one last time, but yet again.

Good luck to all.

[AngerIssues]

Hell, I am in Idaho, with no intention or possibility of spectating at the least, and I am giddy and excited for all the retro iron, especially the pieces that have the unique racing history embedded within, run, place, finish.... Flaunt their stuff for one last time, or not one last time, but yet again.

Good luck to all.

Well... as a testament to Class 3 racing.com...

Jose from SPAIN... saw we had entered. He expressed an interest, and wanted to come!! WE said "SURE"! He flew in yesterday! Today, he got to go for a ride in the race truck. Now he's in my house (asleep with jet-lag).

We are all good people, I think. SWB 4x4 people are good people!!!

ken

[Clydesdale4x4]

Televised, right? I have 4 DVR's in this house, time they get used for more than Californication, and Cailou...

[fj40]

Nice pics in the mexican forum:
http://www.racing.com.mx/cgi/foro/index.php?topic=30514.0

[Moss2]

Here is a video posted on another site. Last I heard Raffo and Leavitt were still running way down past Loreto, Constitucion area. Hope they all made it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA-1lJ5A8Bc&feature=player_embedded#

[Blanco]

Here is a video posted on another site. Last I heard Raffo and Leavitt were still running way down past Loreto, Constitucion area. Hope they all made it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA-1lJ5A8Bc&feature=player_embedded#
Wait a minute?!?!?!? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/6.gif
I thought there was an year limit on the body styles?
A few of those looked much newer than I thought was gonna be allowed?

[PWmtn]

Wait a minute?!?!?!? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/6.gif
I thought there was an year limit on the body styles?
A few of those looked much newer than I thought was gonna be allowed?
Per Norra
VINTAGE OFF ROAD VEHICLES / MOTORCYCLES (1955-1975) AND ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES ONLY!

Point. Put gasahol in the thing - then anything goes?
Point. How do you find the build date for one off buggy or a truck with new fiberglass?

IMO, leave off the alternative fuel then its a real vintage race. ALternative fuel certainly is NOT vintage.

I guess I need to study the various categories for the race?

Paul

[Blanco]

Makes me wonder, if the entry numbers were too low, so they started letting others in?

[vistaracing1]

congrats to raffo for not only finishing but winning the class! was nice to meet ken at the finish, congrats to him also, both overcame adversity. hey ken, where were those tools you were going to loan raffo (jose thread), we could have used them! (a tool box also!)

[Blanco]

congrats to raffo for not only finishing but winning the class! was nice to meet ken at the finish, congrats to him also, both overcame adversity. hey ken, where were those tools you were going to loan raffo (jose thread), we could have used them! (a tool box also!)
Raffo won!?!!?

How AWESOME!!!
Congrats to Raffo!!! :D
I'm assuming Ken also finished in time right?
How many entered the class?

Bring on the pics!!!! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/16.gif

[PWmtn]

4WD Results
Veh # Ctgy Team Total
Minutes
58 Jeep CJ5 5B Greg Adler 983.13
32 1968 Stroppe Bronco 5C/6 Chris Wilson 1010.13
73 1971 Chev Suburban 5E Mark Haber 1032.59
78 Chev K5 Blazer 5D Chris Raffo 1033.54
34 Modfied Bronco? 6 Steve Krieger III 1158.12
45 1968 Ford 5C Chad Niernberg 1200.48
62 1985 Bronco 5D Ken Leavitt 1249.52
38 Jeep Cherokee ? 5B Robert Land 1419.18
61 Bronco ? 5C Toto Tinoco 1561.47
26 1968 Bronco 5C Boyd James 2009.51

[offroadaction]

About a week or 2 before the race, I had a fellow Toronto Classic Bronco member call me. He was originally supposed to be in Marshall's Big Oly Bronco, but Marshall pulled out within the last week or two. He asked me if there was anyone else going that he may be able to hook up with. I immediatly pm'd Chris Raffo and Ken Leavitt. He ended up getting a ride with Chris and loved it. He has posted his story at A Rookie Blasts Off in The Norra 1000 Race.....Pictures - ClassicBroncos.com Forums

Chris and Ken, thanks for your help on this. He was pretty bummed about not being able to go in the Big Oly, but he is super happy about riding with Chris! You made a bad experience into a great memory for him.

Thanks again!

[Broncodawg]

Should have seen Gary's grin from ear to ear when his leg was over. He didn't want to get out of the truck and he got into his rental car and disappeared down the dirt road back to the hwy like he was in a trophy truck...Haha!

[Brokenbronco]

Did Jose from Spain ever hook up with Raffo or Ken?

[retroblazer]

We met up with him at awards on Sunday and he had already hooked-up with another Spaniard for a ride back to LA.

[Broncodawg]

Sure did, He Ken and team became tight buds and he got some good seat time in the bronco as well. He was a big help in their effort that resulted in them finishing. He also connected with another racer from Spain and he decided to stay in baja longer with Ken and Lara. Hope he does a writeup.

[Broncodawg]

Hey Chris, did your rigs make it to the border safe and sound?

[retroblazer]

After the trans got rebuilt and wouldn't shift properly, we bailed. The trucks are supposed to be trucked to TJ next week. $300 each. I hope to be there waiting for them so they don't get pilfered in TJ.

[Broncodawg]

Good deal, shipping them and flying sure beat trying to nurse both rigs all the way north. Hope picking them up goes well.

You're an endurance animal, the way you raced for two days on little sleep, wrenched most the night in Loreto and raced the last day to La paz. Great racing with you.

[retroblazer]

Good deal, shipping them and flying sure beat trying to nurse both rigs all the way north. Hope picking them up goes well.

You're an endurance animal, the way you raced for two days on little sleep, wrenched most the night in Loreto and raced the last day to La paz. Great racing with you.

My right foot was was called to duty. No slacking. It was a pleasure to have you along. When you have six guys to move three trucks over two thousand miles in Baja, everyone has to do their part. Thanks for doing yours.

[retroblazer]

On limited time, having others to help prep meant that I could make the race,literally. Bob Morton played a huge role and Jim Richardson, of Rich's Signs kept us going in the last 24 hours hours, but I wanted to thank another site member, Gilbert/ 11wnb who came over the weekend before with a friend and helped me pull the suspension apart. Thanks again.

[11wnb]

Glad we could help out. Any time you need a hand give me a call or PM here.

[AngerIssues]

On limited time, having others to help prep meant that I could make the race,literally. Bob Morton played a huge role and Jim Richardson, of Rich's Signs kept us going in the last 24 hours hours, but I wanted to thank another site member, Gilbert/ 11wnb who came over the weekend before with a friend and helped me pull the suspension apart. Thanks again.


Don't get used to Gilbert! He's mine for the Baja Mil!!
:D

Great racing with ya Chris. In the future, I hope they tell us:
a) what class we are in
b) where we stand each evening

THEN we can go out and race!!

It's odd to not know where you stand, what class you are in... and just go race???

[retroblazer]

http://www.norra.com/results_category.php

They have posted the times for each performance leg seperately with transit times and penalties.

[retroblazer]

I received confirmation that the Blazer and the Sub are on their way to TJ, arriving on Thurs. this week. The story will continue in the back streets of TJ. Stay tuned sports fans.


For those that know TJ, the address is Ave. International #7777 Ejido Tampico Tijuana The shipping company is Lopez Cinco Freights.

[Broncodawg]

Posting the address to document where you will have been last seen in TJ when you go to get your trucks? AAgghhh! Did I write that? Seriously Best of luck, and be safe, Class 3 wouldn't be the same without it's token Blazer and the infamous Raffo to Razzz.

[Blanco]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/823852/fullsize/30473_423165900101_615180101_4253913_2746201_n.jpg

[vistaracing1]

is that girl watching me sleep in the blazer?