AZ Short Course...

[AngerIssues]

http://www.arizonashortcourse.com/

So I've been toying with the idea of running sportsman (1450) in SNORE... either with the prerunner OR the bronco.

This site caught my eye, because of the 1450 rules and "stock" rules.

It's a ways away (outside Phoenix), but my prerunner is a good match for the 1450 rules (it would keep me from having to race the guys who show up with TT's and want to run sportsman and kick everyone's butt.

Might be a fun change, with more action (and affordable short-course racing, unlike certain other 5-mile loops),

[Blanco]

Is this one track with many events or multiple tracks around Az?

I've been getting more & more familar with AZ. & would like to know where these race's are at?
I've been mostly around Tucson...

[gunit]

Is this one track with many events or multiple tracks around Az?

I've been getting more & more familar with AZ. & would like to know where these race's are at?
I've been mostly around Tucson...

Races are planned for Speedworld and maybe Firebird Raceway near Phoenix and Pima Motorsports Park near Tucson.

This looks like fun and I have been contemplating racing this series in a AZ stock truck.

[Blanco]

Races are planned for Speedworld and Firebird Raceway near Phoenix and Pima Motorsports Park near Tucson.

This looks like fun and I have been contemplating racing this series in a AZ stock truck.
My mom actually lives in SaddleBrook about an hour north of the Pima track... :D
I hate driving around there though,....... The land of hwy speed cameras..

I wonder how hard it would be to get my Bronco legal for this?

What are their rules like?

[gunit]

Cam
Your Bronco would not be legal as it sits.

It isnt a class for street driven trucks. There is a lot of fender banging in these races and the rules require that all glass, plastic and trim be removed.

Here are the rules:

STOCK TRUCK RULES
Revision 01/03/10
SPIRIT AND INTENT: Guidelines offered in this publication are subject to the term "spirit and intent" and apply to the technical aspects of stock truck racing as well as to the actions of competitors, drivers and crewmembers. It is expected that all participants will adhere to the spirit and intent of these rules at our events. These rules are guidelines for fair and competitive competition. If you are contemplating a technical undertaking that is not directly addressed in these rules, please contact a board member. The purpose of this class is to establish a low cost, entry-level form of off-road racing. The main object is to have a truck class that is fun and inexpensive. 2.) GENERAL SPECS 2wd or 4wd pick up truck or full size SUV ½ or ¾ ton chassis only. 3.) SAFETY *Note to all Arizona stock truck drivers; all drivers are subject to follow the ASCC series rules and safety standards.
a)
All trucks MUST have a minimum of a roll bar and one driver’s side door bar minimum tubing size of 1 ¾ by .120 wall thickness DOM or chrome molly.
b)
Fuel cell must be used. Must be mounted in the center of truck bed strapped with 1 inch wide X 1/8 inch thick flat stock. Must have 2 straps going up and down and one side to side.
c)
All stainless, plastic, glass, and die cast trim parts, lights, and moldings removed from out side of the truck.
d)
No exposed glass. All glass MUST be removed (windshields, door glass, rear window, head lights, and tail lights.)
e)
Driver’s door must be chained welded or bolted shut.
f)
5-point harness seat belts required.
g)
Passengers will be allowed. Passenger safety must be same standard as drive side.
h)
Drive shaft must be painted white.
4.) ENGINE
a)
GM, Mopar or Ford with 360ci or smaller.
b)
Engine and chassis must be from the same manufactures.
c)
Carbureted engines only.
d)
No fuel injection, No turbo chargers and No NOS allowed.
e)
Aftermarket intake and carburetor will be allowed. E
f)
ngines must run on pump fuel only NO race fuel or aviation fuel.
g)
OEM engine casing and cylinder heads must be used.
5.) SUSPENSION
a)
Original concept of suspension and springs.
b)
9 inch rear ends will be allowed.
c)
Gear ratio is open.
d)
Spools, limited slip, lockers or welded spider gears are allowed.
e)
Wheel travel is limited to 12 inches.
SUSPENSION CONTINUES:
f)
Maximum track width is 70 inches from outside hub or drum.
g)
Suspension mounts and pivot points may be reinforced and gusseted.
h)
Aftermarket spring can be used and have to mount in stock locations.
i)
Three 2 inch diameter shocks with remote reservoir canister or one 2.5 inch diameter shocks with remote reservoir per wheel can be used.
j)
No coil over or bypass shocks allowed.
k)
Stock factory spindle must be used.
l)
Stock factory lower A-arm or I beam must be used.
m)
No uni-ball replacements.
n)
No secondary suspension.
Complete suspension/lift kits are allowed must bolt on to stock locations no major fabrication work allowed Aftermarket suspension kits must be available to the public i.e. Camburg, Fabtech, Skyjacker, Procomp, Superlift, Full traction, Rancho, Trailmaster, Tuff country, RCD, Black diamond, ect.
6.) CHASSIS
a)
Must remain stock.
b)
May be Gusseted and reinforced.
c)
Drilling in frame rail is allowed for mounting of suspension kit.
7) BODY
a)
Original shape, size and appearance of body.
b)
Up to 2" of fender well opening may be removed and fenders may be flared out an additional 2" to allow for tire clearance.
c)
Removal of inner fenders is allowed.
d)
Removal of CORE support is allowed.
e)
Stock body mounts may be replaced with any material.
f)
Windshield screen or radiator mud screens are allowed.
g)
Must have driver door window net.
h)
Removal of dash is allowed.
i)
Aftermarket or home built bumpers limited to the width of the body will be allowed.
8.) WEIGHT
a)
Trucks must weight at least 3,500 lbs.
9.) TIRE SIZE
a)
33 x 12.50, maximum size D.O.T approved.
10.) NUMBERING
a)
0 – 99
b)
#1 reserved for champion

[Blanco]

Cam
Your Bronco would not be legal as it sits.

It isnt a class for street driven trucks. There is a lot of fender banging in these races and your truck as -is would be heavy. The rules require that all glass, plastic and trim be removed and allow for all the sheet metal to be removed except for the exterior panels like Kens race Bronco. Other than that a fuel cell and a cage of at least 1.75 x .120, a race seat and harness is all that is required.
I understand that in no way would my bronco be race legal as it sits...

Basically, what I was asking was about the 1.75 cage.

So unlike SCORE they will still allow the 1.75 cage?

To be honest I was just curious & asking a queston that might help others with questons... I tend to do that alot...

Can wait to see some videos of this action.... :)

[Clydesdale4x4]

Sounds simple enuff.. buy a parrts Bronco/Blazer/Grand Waggy that runs, skeletize it, add a cage, keep her under a 33x12.50, I didn't see an exclusion for body lift, so 2" it, and rock out with yer Kock out...

In a nutshell, right?

[Blanco]

Sounds simple enuff.. rock out with yer Kock out...

In a nutshell, right?
That don't sound like it wouldn't pass the safety tech...
Sounds much to risky to me... :o

Hey Gunit, did you edit your 1st post or was my net connection being very slow?
I dont remember seeing any of that in post #5 the 1st time I read it. :eek:

[gunit]

Hey Gunit, did you edit your 1st post or was my net connection being very slow?
I dont remember seeing any of that in post #5 the 1st time I read it. :eek:

I added the class rules about 5 minutes after the original post.

[AngerIssues]

Sounds simple enuff.. buy a parrts Bronco/Blazer/Grand Waggy that runs, skeletize it, add a cage, keep her under a 33x12.50, I didn't see an exclusion for body lift, so 2" it, and rock out with yer Kock out...

In a nutshell, right?

I'll have to read the rules again, but ya... I think an internal "roll bar" and the doors bolted shut (or welded). I do expect some serious door banging, being a short-course series. Maybe Raffo can come show us his east-coast style!! :D

[Clydesdale4x4]

That would be fun to set up here, in Idaho, can think of a handful of areas that are enjoyable in 4hi at 45- 50, I could imagine if a guy/gal knew what they were doing, and was in a "race" setting, that could be 80-100 on the straits..

Some of the hairpins with a precipice.. probably not 80... but an overall good enough stretch of dirt, it could be a good time.

Idaho City to Horsheshoe bend, on the back roads through Grimes Creek, Or succor creek from Or to Id, 20+ miles of good time, there is a loop off of that that wouyld add 15 miles or so, down into Leslie gulch, which is a fancy way of saying "there is a town at the bottom of that there reservoir".... and then double back.. on.. umm. some goldurn road, something flats.. but the oint is, we could have some cool courses for that sorta thing here, then there are the dunes at Steck Park, on the snake in Weiser, Could run a loop around Lost Valley reservoir, outside of New Meadows...

Ennh, the bulk of interest here, is Mud, Rocks, or little tuner cars, either literally ricers, or pavement rally types.

So not likely to happen...

Oh and the biggest craze of all, the new ricer.... Diesel.