Custom Spindles?

[Chasespeed]

Figured I would throw this out there...

I know no one makes spindles for my app, BUT, I was wondering is there is someone who does, or knows who does...etc...

I dont think I will try that on my own... never done it, and this truck carries my daughter...

Chase

[steveG]

You might want to tell us what your "app" is.

[Blanco]

You might want to tell us what your "app" is.

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/13.gif More Info would be helpful.. :o

[Chasespeed]

Duh, sorry...scatter brained...

This isnt for something Class3... as it isnt 4wd...

BUT, 2000 2wd Isuzu rodeo....

Already lifted... kinda, torsion in front, but, lost my downtravel...would like to be able to use as much travel as possible, once I can do that, i will find shocks....

Chase

[151FAB]

Doesn't Isuzu share its frame with another manufacturer. Kind of like Mazda and Ford?

[Chasespeed]

Kinda...

The Honda Passport, is a Rodeo...just re-badged,,,

The Trooper was re-made into an Acura SLX I think, and the late rthe Vehicross

But, basically, and Isuzu, is an Isuzu... with VERY little aftermarket..

BUT, they all have fully boxed steel frames, decent axles,(d44 or Isuzu 12 botlwhich is beefy)...

Its a stout platform to build from....

BUT, as stated, No one really makes much for them....

Chase

[151FAB]

Kinda...

The Honda Passport, is a Rodeo...just re-badged,,,

The Trooper was re-made into an Acura SLX I think, and the late rthe Vehicross

But, basically, and Isuzu, is an Isuzu... with VERY little aftermarket..

BUT, they all have fully boxed steel frames, decent axles,(d44 or Isuzu 12 botlwhich is beefy)...

Its a stout platform to build from....

BUT, as stated, No one really makes much for them....

Chase

Oh well, I think that was your only shot at avoiding having custom fab work done. Good luck.

[Chasespeed]

Oh well, I think that was your only shot at avoiding having custom fab work done. Good luck.


Well, I dont mind having the work done, in fact, that was sora the point of this post...

Down here in this area of TX, there are TONS of these rigs, 2wd, and I cna snag a set of spindles and send them to someone...

There really isnt anyone in the area that is up to this task...

SO, if I could send a set out to someone, to work with the geometry, tapers, etc(maybe move the steering arm up a little), who would you recommend?

This truck DOES get airtime, and is driven daily on the street..

I am also gonna post this on Race Dezert... probably a broader spectrum there...

Thanks,

Chase

[151FAB]

You'll see more attention on the subject there. There are plenty of "fabricators" there that will chime in. I would get plenty of references prior to spending any money or time with anyone in particular. If there is a market for them you should have no problem finding someone to build jigs and fab up your spindles. see if you can round up some others that are willing to purchase some of the same spindles. That way you can split the cost of the initial set-up and jigs. These are the things that make custom so expensive, therefor, the more units; the cheaper they will be.

[3amigo]

Don't rush to throw away some pretty good parts. The isuzu spindles are forged and are very strong for stock parts. The 2wd parts share the big bearings and spindle of the 4wd trucks. I really doubt that strenth will be an issue.
I know your on a quest for travel, so to answer your question, Yes there are fabricators that can spin you up some nice 4130 custom spindles. You might want to look at something that uses some stock parts like a bolt on dana 44 spindle, the 44 parts are cheap and they come in 6 lug and the brakes are a fair match to what you have. I think that the fire guys racing class 7 toyota is running this type of spindle. You could track them down and see who built theirs. The toyota stuff will be really close to what you would need for your rodeo.
As always the custom fabrication will be a fortune.

Now here is the part where I try and discourage you from doing this. Your spindles form the forth link in your front suspension. They are the shape they are for very specific reasons. If you change any dimension of the spindle without changing the other link dimensions you will alter how your suspension cycles and cause lots of problems like horrible bump steer, scrub problems, ackerman angle, and camber.

The real answer to the travel you want is longer a-arms and a switch to coil overs. I know I sound like a broken record, but there it is.

[Chasespeed]

Sorry....I should have put another post.

I have looked into this more, and decided not to really bother with lift spindles.. as they seem to be a weak point when dont that way... not where I want the weak spot..

Anyway, the upper b/j is bolted, as well as the lower.

Right now, making the a-arms wider isnt an option.

I am thinking, based on the lower not close to binding yet...

of a higher travel upper, or uniball....

And of course, better shocks...

Right now, I am thinking either F-O-A emulsion shocks, or some bilstein 5100s.. remember, still mostly street driven...

Still need to take that rack partially apart, and see if I can solve that inner tie rod issue.. like mentioned, I have some basic ideas, BUT... havent pulled the rack apart to see if it would work..

So, I may gusset the spindle, but, other than that, leave it be, havent had any issues with that... my weak points are the ball joints, and of course, the rack is leaking.... so...

I will just continue on the quest of trying to max the factory stuff out with a few trick parts. Honestly, these are some of the stoutest trucks built, with ALOT of potential...but, no after market, or following(well, there are some, and with some FIERCE loyalty).....

Anyway.... I have what I have, and I wanna make the best of it, while I can....

So, any recomendation on shocks?

Money IS a concern...

Thanks,
Chase

[3amigo]

For better of worse I bought 2 pair of F-O-A resi's for my build. They look good and for now I am realy happy with them. I hope that they don't puke their guts out in the desert. Foa has been great to deal with and I have confidence in their product, but I havent raced them yet.
Only problem with these shocks for a stock truck is the length. The upper mount will have to be changed because they are going to be much longer than the stock shock for the same travel.

[Chasespeed]

Yeah, I was scoping out the lengths, and that wont be too much of a problem.. I have a few shock towers, and and whatnot kicking around...

Chase

[Chasespeed]

Well, after doing ALOT of digging, I am guessing that the Zu will fall under class 7s.... I think, though it says no 4 link, it also says must retain stock etc..

I dont have a rule book, this is piece mealed together... so...

Anyway, the bronc still falls in here, just no money for that right now...

Hell, the bronc doenst even run reliably

Chase

[3amigo]

You are 4 link from the factory, so you should be good to go. You will probably need to stick with the t-bars and stock length a-arms, but I think you can upgrade to uniballs.

[Chasespeed]

You are 4 link from the factory, so you should be good to go. You will probably need to stick with the t-bars and stock length a-arms, but I think you can upgrade to uniballs.

hit the nail on the head...

What I really liked reading what I could find, is, that this class seems to be pretty in-exspensive, compared to other classes anyway...

NOW, I just need to find a REALATIVELY in-expspensive uni-ball....

thinking 1 inch should be PLENTY big....

And, need a little help with shocks, and valving...

Chase