Looking for the Cheapest Art Carr Shifter Sorce

[Blanco]

I'm on a search for an Art Carr shifter.
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/trans/QuickShifter01/img17.jpg
I'm completely Broke, So if I buy one it has to be at a Bottom dollar budget plan. :o

[Blanco]

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[shaner17]

I got my winters shifter, which is pretty much exactly the same as the art carr for $300 w/ linkage from the classifieds on Desert rangers. Ill keep a look out for you.

[chupakabras]

there was an offer, at rdc , $160, but, he already sold it, i'm on a search too,,. good luck..:D

[BajaBronco13]

Can't you buy one direct from Art Carr for $220.00 or so? I thought I saw a advertisement for one on 4Wheel & Off Road magazine.

CP

[Blanco]

Can't you buy one direct from Art Carr for $220.00 or so? I thought I saw a advertisement for one on 4Wheel & Off Road magazine.

CP

I called them about a 2 weeks ago & they told me their basic price is $329.00 & it goes up from there.

& thats a fair price, I suppose. But I'm Broke right now.... :o

[BajaBronco13]

I wonder what you get for this $232.00 price point on this art carr link.

http://artcarr.com/storm.cfm?funnelaction=1012

Save your lunch money and kick down for the shifter you really want, or else you'll be bummed you didn't.

[Blanco]

Heck, I could be wrong... or its new special!

Thanks for the link, I'll order it tomorrow! :)

& whats the difference between ArtCarr & Winters?

[BajaBronco13]

Cam are you going to be running a manual shift valve body so you can cycle through your gears? I've seen other trucks run that set up with a reverse pattern on the shifter gate.

[Blanco]

Cam are you going to be running a manual shift valve body so you can cycle through your gears? I've seen other trucks run that set up with a reverse pattern on the shifter gate.

Since you brought it up.....

No, the E4OD is electrically controlled & so maunually shifting is iffy? :o

But I'm gonna be looking into the reverse valve body before I order.
Probably also not available? :confused:

Anybody have cullhanes( misspelled ) number available? :confused:

[toddz69]

Since you brought it up.....

No, the E4OD is electrically controlled & so maunually shifting is iffy? :o

But I'm gonna be looking into the reverse valve body before I order.
Probably also not available? :confused:

Anybody have cullhanes( misspelled ) number available? :confused:

Steve Culhane
951-678-1669

Todd Z.

[toddz69]

Whats the difference between ArtCarr & Winters?

Other than the name plates on the side, nothing. Winters does offer a few more styles of shifters (reverse lockouts, switch panels on the side of the cover, etc.) but otherwise they're identical. Winters used to be cheaper but I don't know of that's the case anymore or not.

Todd Z.

[Brokenbronco]

Cam, check this out.

http://dezertrangers.com/cgi-bin/ib/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=16;t=57077;hl=winters+shif ter

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/bangdesk.gif Missed it by a few minutes!

I just called and he said I just sold it a few minutes ago. :rolleyes:

Oh well, Thanks for the link.

[Blanco]

Ok, I just got off the phone with Steve Cullhane & he says that he's not aware of any sort of reverse pattern Valve body.

He's sure it could be done But, He's not had enough call for it.

[AngerIssues]

No offense Cam, but until I got the manual valve body (with reverse pattern), the gated shiftwe was a complete joke, other than looks.

Even my oem C6 would shift on it's own... wouldn't downshift for me, and I couldn't run in the gears/rpms I wanted. If you are stuck with D4OD, and it will shift on it's own, why bother?

My life was "good" once I got the valve body and a better torque converter with a higher stall rating.

must my 2 cents!!

ken

[Blanco]

I hear what your saying... :o

But I see moving on from the E-$od down the road some...... Assuming I actually start racing..

So I'm just trying to think ahead...

While talking to steve today we both came to an agreement that considering the cost it would be best to either (GASP) swap to a GM trans or look for a C6.

But considering I have commitment issues... I'll run what I've brung for now. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif

I plan on beating it hard at Primm, So will see whats up at that point!

I wish I never heard anything about Desert play...... Cause damn! I cant afford to keep up with the High Speed stuff! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/bangdesk.gif

[Moss2]

I think you still need a stand alone programmable controller for the E4OD.
http://www.baumannengineering.com/tcs.htm
Once you do that you supposedly can use pushbuttons to manually shift. I hope you figure it all out so the rest of us can learn from it for our trucks:D

[toddz69]

I think you still need a stand alone programmable controller for the E4OD.
http://www.baumannengineering.com/tcs.htm
Once you do that you supposedly can use pushbuttons to manually shift. I hope you figure it all out so the rest of us can learn from it for our trucks:D

A friend of mine is very, very familiar with the Baumann controllers. He has two of them, both on 4R70Ws - one in his early Bronco and one in a 5.0 Ranger. If anyone's curious about the controller or has questions, he's always willing to talk about them/give advice, etc. He's not an off-road racer, but I would consider him familiar with our type of usage (he's an off roader).

Todd Z.

[Blanco]

I think you still need a stand alone programmable controller for the E4OD.
http://www.baumannengineering.com/tcs.htm
Once you do that you supposedly can use pushbuttons to manually shift. I hope you figure it all out so the rest of us can learn from it for our trucks:D

A friend of mine is very, very familiar with the Baumann controllers. He has two of them, both on 4R70Ws - one in his early Bronco and one in a 5.0 Ranger. If anyone's curious about the controller or has questions, he's always willing to talk about them/give advice, etc. He's not an off-road racer, but I would consider him familiar with our type of usage (he's an off roader).

Todd Z.


OK so would it work as Ken suggest? :confused:

Even though I dont see it being too easy reaching to push a button for shifting while in the rough stuff..http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif

I suppose one of those trick Steering wheels with buttons on it might work?

[151FAB]

I think the point of 'push button' would be to add limit switches to your gate shifter, or any other unit your comfortable with, so that it would work like you want. Kind of like a fly-by-wire system in aerospace. However, I do think your onto something with the steering wheel buttons. Great idea for off road apps.

[BajaBronco13]

Like paddle shifters on Indy cars? Is that what you would invision using the buttons for?

[chupakabras]

hey cam, did you bought already yours rig shifter?,, if so, from where did you bought it, we are in the process to do so, tomorrow we will take our C4 to JUAN CO PERFORMANCE ENGINEERING to start the build up,, can wait to have that c4 on our chupakabras, just can't imagine how it will be to drive the chupas with an automatic tranny, well, semi auto , right, last week at rosarito, there were some other guys with their class 7s with the same tranny and man, its great how quick and smoth those c4 can shift, our manual tranny sucksss. .. well, will see, but, we still need the shifter, :D

[Blanco]

No, I've not bought it yet...