Yikes horsey fab

[Yikes]

I may as well get a build thread going here. There is not much to show and the goin' may be slow, but here we go. :D

My original intentions were to keep the build to Class specs, but this rig will not be a race truck, so there will be some deviations. The cage will be spec, as will the wheel base; however, I'm undecided on the track width. This is my toy and chase rig, so a little extra width may be more fun. I intend to put the best shocks money can buy to the suspension, but there will be some interim choices to get me by while I'm gathering parts and fabbing for the build.

As indicated in another thread, I plan to cut/turn/lengthen my own beams. I'm sticking with 35" rubber until the monitary resources show themselves for CNC knuckles. The rear will get a Cone 40 spline FF high pinion 9 and there may be a simple trussed 35 spline 9 in there as an interim choice as well.

The current top priority is getting a business off the ground, so sometimes decisions will be made that don't lean toward the build, but it WILL get done. I've had this rig for 8 years now and there are no plans to ever get rid of it.

First up is my latest project, which is the first product to be sold through the biz:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/546052/fullsize/p7280016.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/546477/fullsize/p7290021.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/547275/fullsize/p7300003.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/547277/fullsize/p7300005.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/548944/fullsize/p8030018.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549633/fullsize/p8050020.jpg

[Yikes]

These are some rock sliders that I built when the build direction was leaning towards rockcrawling. I spent 250hrs working on these and the time paid off. Haven't managed to damage them yet in the rocks. :D They'll stay on until such a time that I can't justify carrying the added weight or having the extra protection. There are still a few rocks in my future.

The first picture below was the configuration of the Bronco before I succommed to my go-fast dreams.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/493325/fullsize/rockin-063.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549664/fullsize/slider.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549662/fullsize/slider2.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549663/fullsize/slider-sandwich.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549652/fullsize/machined-parts2.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549660/fullsize/stage-1-bottom.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/549656/fullsize/jacked.jpg

More to come!

[Blanco]

Great work Brian! http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif

[11wnb]

Yikes that is one bad a$$ bumper. Did you have any cooling issues with those lights blocking airflow into the radiator?

[Yikes]

Yikes that is one bad a$$ bumper. Did you have any cooling issues with those lights blocking airflow into the radiator?

Strange enough, the engine has been running cooler since I mounted the lights and skid plate. I'm undecided, but I may not cut the air holes in the skidplate.

[Yikes]

Mounted the 3 Hella 4000's, but still working on the wiring.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552561/fullsize/p8050020.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552562/fullsize/p8050021.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552568/fullsize/p8130027.jpg

Got the relays mounted on the inner fender next to the air cleaner. The bundle of wires to the left have not been run yet.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552566/fullsize/p8130025.jpg

Mounted the switch where the auxiliary power port was. Except for the backing plate I made to cover the hole, it almost looks factory.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552564/fullsize/p8120023.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/552567/fullsize/p8130026.jpg

[Yikes]

Here's a couple of pics of my skidplate....before it was all rusty and ugly. It's about 80% complete from a fab standpoint. I've got to build the x-member under the bell housing and eventually get it coated. Here it is:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523166/fullsize/p5290002.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523168/fullsize/p5290004.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523169/fullsize/p5290005.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523170/fullsize/p5290006.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523171/fullsize/p5290007.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523173/fullsize/p5290009.jpg

It's built at the angle of the drivetrain as evident in the picture below.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523174/fullsize/p5290010.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523175/fullsize/p5290011.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523204/fullsize/p5290012.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/523999/fullsize/skid-member3.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/524000/fullsize/skid-member4.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

Brian,

That skid plate is looking bad @$$. You should try to market it.

Chris

[Blanco]

Brian,

That skid plate is looking bad @$$. You should try to market it.

Chris

Yeah, I've been on his waiting list. :)

[11wnb]

If you have a waiting list going I may be interested in that front bumper. Any plans for a matching rear bumper?:)

[Yikes]

If you have a waiting list going I may be interested in that front bumper. Any plans for a matching rear bumper?:)

Yes to both. I'll be starting a rear bumper next. The front bumper is probably 2 mths from being ready to ship, but I'm working for 6 weeks. And thanks for the good words!!

[Yikes]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/553893/fullsize/p8180009.jpg

[Yikes]

Ready to tear down. I should make some progress this weekend. I intend to get the D50 center link installed, replace the U-joints, install the Camburg arms and get to work on the cut/turn. The budget is unusually tight right now, so shocks are still up in the air. If I can't find a good used pair of King or Fox 2.5's, I may give FOA a shot as an interim step.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/558580/fullsize/p8300017.jpg

Pimpin' C3R.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/558583/fullsize/p8300018.jpg

[Blanco]

That looks http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/awesome_dude.gif

almost as if it was made to fit there!

Thanks so much for showing your support of the site & the Class. http://thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif

[81chevyk5]

yea that bumper looks awesome along with those sliders im lookin forward to see what the rear bumper will look like when finished

any chance you could make a similar one for a blazer ill provide the material?

[BajaBronco13]

Yikes Fabrications is racking up the orders. :)

[Yikes]

Yikes Fabrications is racking up the orders. :)

Ha! Yeah. I've got the bumper out for quote. Soon to be in biz :D

[steveG]

You may already know this, but Sway-A-Ways can work just as well as Fox and King and you can find them used dirt-cheap. Not to mention the fact that the collapsed lengths are shorter, making them better for tight spaces. Recently there were 2 pair on RDC for 200/pr.

Honestly, I'd buy whatever comes up at a good price. I use Fox in the front of mine and SAW in the rear because of the collapsed length... still does fine.

[Yikes]

Thanks Steve. Good point on the collapsed lengths. There certainly isn't much room under the rear. People seem to be 50/50 on Sway-A-Way. Service is what comes to mind for complaints. Any issues for you there? I'm curious what your opinion is on FOA's as well, for a budget build.....what you've heard and such. I've read a few positive comments about them, but there isn't much history there yet. I've been considering them as an interim step until I can get the cage built, coilovers, etc.

[81chevyk5]

any chance you could make a similar one for a blazer ill provide the material?

so you gonna do a full cage front to back? how far are you gonna take this build you goin full c3 or just prerunner

[Yikes]

so you gonna do a full cage front to back? how far are you gonna take this build you goin full c3 or just prerunner

The cage will be Class 3 legal, as will the track width and wheelbase, but I intend to keep this Bronco as a prerun/chase rig. It's still too nice to hack up for racing.

[steveG]

Thanks Steve. Good point on the collapsed lengths. There certainly isn't much room under the rear. People seem to be 50/50 on Sway-A-Way. Service is what comes to mind for complaints. Any issues for you there? I'm curious what your opinion is on FOA's as well, for a budget build.....what you've heard and such. I've read a few positive comments about them, but there isn't much history there yet. I've been considering them as an interim step until I can get the cage built, coilovers, etc.

Supposedly their service was really bad for a while but I've heard it's much better now. To me it doesn't really matter though. I've always serviced and valved shocks myself (I suspect you'll do the same), so I never had the need for "customer service". I've bought a lot of parts from SAW through Kartek and never had an issue. They have a lot of retailers, so finding a supplier is easy.

I really don't know anything about FOA.

EDIT: My only complaint with SAW is the cost of valve shims. If you can get a "Racer" discount at one of their retailers though, the price difference is negligible.

[Yikes]

Supposedly their service was really bad for a while but I've heard it's much better now. To me it doesn't really matter though. I've always serviced and valved shocks myself (I suspect you'll do the same), so I never had the need for "customer service". I've bought a lot of parts from SAW through Kartek and never had an issue. They have a lot of retailers, so finding a supplier is easy.

I really don't know anything about FOA.

EDIT: My only complaint with SAW is the cost of valve shims. If you can get a "Racer" discount at one of their retailers though, the price difference is negligible.

Thanks Steve. Yes, I'll handle the tuning and rebuilds myself. In fact, I've got a friend that's an ex shock engineer to assist with the tuning.

[roach]

my personal experience / choice is as follows...............


1. Fox
2. King
3. Bilstein
4. Rancho
5. Monroe Gas
6. Kragen lifetime warantee
7. Midas "goerge forman" specials
8. used swapmeet "non-application" universal bolt-on's
9. then, if all the above are sold out or on back-order, then i will do the Fade-A-Way, i mean Sway-A-Gay, oops, sorry, i meant the Play-N-Fade, Oh, you know what i mean!

[Yikes]

I have to say, I'm a big Fox fan. I used to make some of their internals and have used their MTB shocks for years. In fact the DHX 5.0 is kinda the MTB version of a quad bypass, but it also allows adjustment of the reservoir chamber volume, along with air pressure to help control the compression curve and bottom out resistance. Good stuff!!They are very particular about quality and it shows in the performance.

[Blanco]

Bilstein They've been around forever, they know what they're doing. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/m2c.gif

But KING does seem to be what most people switch too? :rolleyes:

[steveG]

my personal experience / choice is as follows...............


1. Fox
2. King
3. Bilstein
4. Rancho
5. Monroe Gas
6. Kragen lifetime warantee
7. Midas "goerge forman" specials
8. used swapmeet "non-application" universal bolt-on's
9. then, if all the above are sold out or on back-order, then i will do the Fade-A-Way, i mean Sway-A-Gay, oops, sorry, i meant the Play-N-Fade, Oh, you know what i mean!

Man, that's harsh! Seriously though. This isn't a TT, Class 1 or even an incredibly well thought-out CLass 3 build (yours Ricardo).:) Proper tuning works wonders and I think SAWs are more than sufficient for this specific build.

That said, I still go back to use whatever you can get a deal on. On man's junk....

[DesertBronco]

S.A.W. will be just fine, Brett King Has nice stuff but its not cheap.
I have a Racer Discount At a Local supplier in Corona. If i can help let me know.

[Yikes]

Not much to update, but good things are in the works. I've got some c/tbeams on the way and finally got the new bumper, skidplate and radius arms powder coated. The front end is going to get the new parts before I've got good suspension ready because I bent the driver's radius arm. Here's a couple of shiny pics. I will update with something more significant soon!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/570950/fullsize/camburg-beams2.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/570949/fullsize/skidplate.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/570946/fullsize/pa040019.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/570947/fullsize/pa040021.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/570948/fullsize/pa040024.jpg

[Yikes]

S.A.W. will be just fine, Brett King Has nice stuff but its not cheap.
I have a Racer Discount At a Local supplier in Corona. If i can help let me know.

Wow! Thanks for the offer........I never saw this??!!!

[Blanco]

I've got some c/tbeams on the way

What? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif You gave up on doing your own beams?

[Yikes]

What? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif You gave up on doing your own beams?

No! I just have a need right now. I bent the driver's radius arm and need to get the Camburgs under there, but want to do the beams at the same time. I'll still do my own down the road, but just no time right now.

[RelentlessPursuitRacing]

Very sweet, Yikes. I love that front bumper! Probably the best one that i've seen on a late model Pre-runner or Race Bronco. Nice work!

[3amigo]

I'm curious what your opinion is on FOA's as well, for a budget build.....what you've heard and such. I've read a few positive comments about them, but there isn't much history there yet. I've been considering them as an interim step until I can get the cage built, coilovers, etc.

I have 2 pair of FOA smoothbody resi's, 12" and 18"
They are not installed yet, so no performance feedback, They do have more oil in them than a similar SAW so hopefully fade will be less. My biggest concern is how well they are going to hold their oil. There always seems to be a little oil mess where they sit.

[Grimm]

This is what someone told me. Back in the day there was a company making the shocks that most of the guys were using called, Custard(?) Then King bought them out and slapped their name on the same shocks and Custard changed its name and went on to build Sway a Way. So he was saying that they are basically the same shocks. Not sure if any of this is true. But thats what someone told.

[Yikes]

This is what someone told me. Back in the day there was a company making the shocks that most of the guys were using called, Custard(?) Then King bought them out and slapped their name on the same shocks and Custard changed its name and went on to build Sway a Way. So he was saying that they are basically the same shocks. Not sure if any of this is true. But thats what someone told.

That was Kuster. I used to run a Kuster shock on my Downhill race bike back in the mid 90's. Quality suspension for it's day, but leaked like a sieve.

[Grimm]

Kuster, Thanks. I knew custard didn't quite sound right. haha

[Yikes]

Well, the fun has been put on hold for a bit while I take care of some much needed maintenance. My TPS is acting up, so I'm going to replace it and the IAC while the valve body is off. The valve body was super dirty after almost 150k. I cleaned it and being as I am, couldn't leave it alone. So I decided to port the mouth to improve airflow. I'm sure there won't be a HP gain, but I'm hoping the throttle response will benefit. We'll see. Just the lower port (as mounted) is done in the pics.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575397/fullsize/throttle-body.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575398/fullsize/throttle-body2.jpg

Finished.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575436/fullsize/throttle-body3.jpg

I also put an MSD coil on the other day just for peace of mind. It was a bit crisper on start up, but just as I expected, there were no other gains recognized.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575399/fullsize/coil.jpg

[Yikes]

I did manage to squeeze in a couple of hours to work on the beams tonight. These are used Mason Motorsports C/T's that I'm going to lengthen and gusset/truss. The first step towards making them "mine" is to weld the layers of plate around the knuckle. I got the driver's beam done.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575483/fullsize/mason-beam.jpg

Before.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575484/fullsize/mason-beam2.jpg

After.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/575485/fullsize/mason-beam3.jpg

[steveG]

How much lift are those beams set up for?

What's your target lift number after the beams are extended?

Are you going to extend beams that already have the ball joint moved out to correct camber? It seems like you might end up with beams that are aligned for too much lift. Wouldn't it make more sense to extend the beam first then correct camber?

[Yikes]

.
...Same post on C3R....

How much lift are those beams set up for? 4"

What's your target lift number after the beams are extended? 4.25":toothless:

Are you going to extend beams that already have the ball joint moved out to correct camber? It seems like you might end up with beams that are aligned for too much lift. Wouldn't it make more sense to extend the beam first then correct camber? Given the projected angle of the beam, extending 1"-1 1/2" per side will only yield 1/4" or so lift and has 0 impact on camber. The intention is to stay within Class 3 specs and lengthen just the passenger axle. Obviously that means they'll be stretched from the pivot end. The clearance for the centersection is a minimal modification, so I'm not concerned with that. Bump location will be moved.

[RelentlessPursuitRacing]

.Given the projected angle of the beam, extending 1"-1 1/2" per side will only yield 1/4" or so lift and has 0 impact on camber. The intention is to stay within Class 3 specs and lengthen just the passenger axle. Obviously that means they'll be stretched from the pivot end. The clearance for the centersection is a minimal modification, so I'm not concerned with that. Bump location will be moved. ...

With your intention being to stay class 3 legal, you cannot clearance the frame if that's what you are talking about. You can clearance the beam though.

[Yikes]

You can clearance the beam though.

;):D

[steveG]

Ahh, I didn't realize you were extending on the pivot end. I'm not a fan of that method, but I know your attention to detail, so I'm sure you can make it work.

[Yikes]

Picked up these 2.5 x 14 Racerunners for $300. Brand new with the shields still on the decals and unpressurized. Not the best, but a step in the right direction. I'll pick up a valving kit (and spare rebuild kits) and tune them once I get 'em on and tested.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/576730/fullsize/sways.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

Brian,

Nice find bro. Can't wait to see them mounted.

Chris

[151FAB]

That's a smok'n deal. Great find!!!!!

[Yikes]

Ok here's this weekend's project. Gotta replace the motor mounts before the thing comes thru the hood. Yes, I would rather have the Autofab mounts, but there are too many other items on the list right now to justify the expense. Anyway, while I'm at it I've got to replace the pan gasket. I've got a Stage 8 bolt kit that's been waiting for that to happen for a couple of years now. Ha!

Oh, the grade 5's shown will be replaced with 8's. Not really necessary, but it's just a few bucks for a couple of bolts and nuts and a little extra peace of mind.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/577516/fullsize/motor-mounts.jpg

[Blanco]

So whos make those Mounts?

[Salttoy]

Those look like the ones from West Coast Broncos.

[Yikes]

So whos make those Mounts?

Got 'em from JBG

[steveG]

So whos make those Mounts?

Autofab.

[Yikes]

Got some balls today.......Uniballs!!! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif Decided to upgrade since I'm going to be cutting the beams up anyway. I'm not sure why, but I'm more excited about these than just about anything else I've done.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/582635/fullsize/uniballs.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/582636/fullsize/uniballs2.jpg

[Yikes]

Got some time in on the driver's side beam today. Extend the pivot end 1 1/4". Not the prettiest splice, but it should do the trick. I think I've added around 5 lbs. of metal and I anticipate another 3 or so once the plate work is finished.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583420/fullsize/pb110001.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583421/fullsize/pb110002.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583422/fullsize/pb110003.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583423/fullsize/pb110004.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583424/fullsize/pb110005.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583427/fullsize/pb110008.jpg

Next step will be to mount the beam, cycle it and check clearances/make mods as necessary.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/583432/fullsize/pb110013.jpg

[Blanco]

Looking good Brian.

[EGud]

Nice!!!

[shaner17]

Looks Sweet!

[Grimm]

JBG mounts huh? What engine, the 351W?

[Yikes]

Thanks for the good words fellas! Shane - Any updates on your rig?


JBG mounts huh? What engine, the 351W?

Yup, 351. Yeah it's small and gutless, but it's what I've got. :D

[151FAB]

Nice work. And don't worry about the 351w. You can make tons of power with them as you can afford it!

[Grimm]

I got some 400M mounts from them and they don't look like much compared to those mounts. Those look sturdy. Tons of aftermarket out there for the 351W, you'll be better off in the long run with that engine.

[Yikes]

I got some 400M mounts from them and they don't look like much compared to those mounts. Those look sturdy. Tons of aftermarket out there for the 351W, you'll be better off in the long run with that engine.


Yeah, I was just playing around. I'm planning to build an emissions legal 351 based 393. I've been the big block route and I just can't see carrying the weight around. An aluminum headed small block that can rev 7 grand will definitely put a smile on my face. :D

[BajaBronco13]

Hey Brian,

Did you check out the build up on the Retro Bronco's 393 engine? Man that thing was a thing of beauty. I don't remember what the final numbers where on the torque and horsepower. I'm sure it wasn't cheap either. Still, nice eye candy.

Chris

[Grimm]

We went with the 400 because it matched the big block bellhousing on the C-6 already in the truck. Bored and stoked it to 434. Alluminum heads. Our cam keeps the rpms fairly low redlining around 5500. We figured that the average speed of these races has been around 30-40mph so we don't really need the high rpms for to long. That was our thought at least. 500HP and 540Ft.Lbs We'll see if it works the way we were thinking, but right now it is a real strong engine. Not the easiest to get parts for.

[Yikes]

Hey Brian,

Did you check out the build up on the Retro Bronco's 393 engine? Man that thing was a thing of beauty. I don't remember what the final numbers where on the torque and horsepower. I'm sure it wasn't cheap either. Still, nice eye candy.

Chris

I haven't seen that. Got a link? Don't suupose it was street legal was it?

[BajaBronco13]

Brian,

I'll look up my old DirtSports magazine and see if I can scan the article.

Chris

[BajaBronco13]

Hey Brian,

Any feedback on those Toyos? I decided to sell my 37" Projects and go down to 35" tires. Those Toyos seem to be doing pretty well in the desert.

Chris

[Yikes]

Hey Brian,

Any feedback on those Toyos? I decided to sell my 37" Projects and go down to 35" tires. Those Toyos seem to be doing pretty well in the desert.

Chris

I went from TSL SX's to these(rockcrawler stuff), so my impressions may be somewhat skewed. :D The performance has been great. They're durability surprised me in the rocks and they flex quite well at 10-12 psi. They don't chunk out near as easily as the SX's, but then they haven't got quite the grip either, but it's good regardless. They are MUCH more stable at speed; however, I was able to run the 36" SX's at 15psi in the fast stuff and use them for extra suspension. The sidewalls, albeit tough are not as stiff, so the pressure has to remain above 20-25 depnding on the conditions. With that, these feel a bit more harsh. Since most desert folks have good suspension and run tires at near street pressures, this again is somewhat skewed.

I really like the 13.5 width with the 8" wheel. I was skeptical at first, but it's worked out great. The foot print is big and that means traction. Believe it or not, these tires are about 4-8lbs heavier than the SX's. That was a shock, as I was expecting to drop some pounds making the switch from my old wheel/tire combo.

Lastly. The tires ride very nice on the street and are quiet. They seem to be wearing well, again compared to the SX's. I've run BFG MT's for a lot of years and would definitely pic these tires over them. I think they're one of the best dual sport tires out there.

[locopny]

I was able to run the 36" SX's at 15psi

did you notice these holding air well? or maybe its just me...:confused:
major neglect of the EB lately revealed nearly flat tires.

Anyway point of post....Beams are looking nice. will give you a call as I have some specific questions regarding them..(would have today but time got away from me)
May be out in your neck of the world next Friday &/or sunday morning if you'd be avail to show them.

Keep up the motivational work there B!:D

[Yikes]

did you notice these holding air well? or maybe its just me...:confused:
major neglect of the EB lately revealed nearly flat tires.Didn't I mention that? :D Yeah, I put air in them once a week after they were broken in. They seemed fine before rock duty.
Anyway point of post....Beams are looking nice. will give you a call as I have some specific questions regarding them..(would have today but time got away from me)
May be out in your neck of the world next Friday &/or sunday morning if you'd be avail to show them. Friday afternoon or anytime on the weekend should be fine. Just let me know in advance so I don't run off to go ssshhhoppping. :rolleyes::D

Keep up the motivational work there B!:D

...

[locopny]

Maybe you did...I may have been on overload with all that driving.
just happy that its not just me.


I'll give ya heads up for sure.

[Yikes]

No time to work. Gotta play!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602073/fullsize/pismo0001_25.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602303/fullsize/img_5581(2).jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602307/fullsize/img_5553(2).jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602067/fullsize/img_0203.jpg

[EGud]

Nice! :)

[locopny]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/602307/fullsize/img_5553(2).jpg


whats wrong with the front end???
:rolleyes:

:D:p

hint of sarcasm

[fj40]

Nice air, great pic´s.

[wiley-moeracing]

You do great work, looks like its well thought out, just be careful on the ends of the front bumper,awsome fitment, but being a sharp end some race oganization's may not like it if you race with it. but beautiful non the less

[Yikes]

You do great work, looks like its well thought out, just be careful on the ends of the front bumper,awsome fitment, but being a sharp end some race oganization's may not like it if you race with it. but beautiful non the less

Thanks for the good words! Good point on the tube ends. I'm currently designing another bumper that won't have the coped ends. BTW, love your Jeep!

[Yikes]

Building them to take a beating!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/608910/fullsize/img_0335.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609770/fullsize/img_0336.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609771/fullsize/img_0337.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609772/fullsize/img_0338.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609773/fullsize/img_0339.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609775/fullsize/img_0341.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/609776/fullsize/img_0342.jpg

[AngerIssues]

nice work. wanna trade beams?

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/awesome_dude.gif

[Yikes]

Well, here's what I've got to date for:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/615850/fullsize/img_0365.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/615851/fullsize/img_0366.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/615852/fullsize/img_0369.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/615853/fullsize/img_0370.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/615854/fullsize/img_0371.jpg

The rundown:

Front end

Glassworks 3" flare fenders
Custom Mason/homegrown beams - 1 1/4" over per side with 1" uniballs.
Sway 2.5x14 piggy's
Beard limit straps
D44 4.56:1 open centersection
Camburg cromo heimed radius arms and mountsRear end

Autofab 3" flare quarters. A little beat, but easily repaired.
Deaver F53 11 leaf race packs
Sway 2.5x12 threaded body resi's
Fabtech limit straps
Still need:

Extended brakelines
Fabricate swingset steering
Deaver coils with Autofab poly bumps
2.5x4 rear air bumps. Will probably go with FOA.
Extended front axle shaft - 2.5" over.
Fabricate: Front and rear shock mounts, rear bump mounts and rear
shackles
Rebuild and revalve? the rear shocks.
Revalve the front shocks.
Fender/Quarter mounting hardware
Bling Bling fuel door
This is a very budget build. So far I've got less than 2k invested. I anticipate about another 1-2k to finish, including painting the sides of the Bronco with the factory stripes.

[Brokenbronco]

Like a kid on christmas!

[wiley-moeracing]

Holy crap, how am I suppose to keep up with all the great stuff you got!!! All most makes me want to trade sides.... no not yet there is still life in the old beast!!! thanks for the kind words Tim

[Yikes]

Originally the plan was to do the rear suspension this weekend. Decided to do the quarters first to gain the space. Unfortunately the weekend didn't begin until about 1pm Saturday, but I managed to get one quarter mounted. Today is shot.

Here's the cut quarter hanging by the inner fender.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619152/fullsize/img_0384.jpg

Completely removed. My daughter wanted to get in the picture too.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619153/fullsize/img_0386.jpg

Cut the rear up some more. Here you can see the difference from side to side.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619155/fullsize/img_0388.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619154/fullsize/img_0387.jpg

Mounted up! Got the fuel door on as well. Despite careful measurement, I ended up about 1" too low because I didn't factor in the flare. Oh well! Will just have to fab up a new tube. Decided to use most of the existing holes (these are used Autofab quarters), but a few will get filled. Doesn't look the greatest, but a few extra bolts will just keep it on should it be attacked by cactus.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619158/fullsize/img_0390.jpg

Trimmed the rear up as well. I've got a down and dirty bumper in mind that should flow well with the angles.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619156/fullsize/img_0389.jpg

[Yikes]

On a side note: After seeing the simplicity of Race8100's Bronco I feel confident that even with the tight budget my rig can be ready to hit a couple of stateside races in '09 and I can't wait! My dad expressed an interest and said he would love to race again, but he's just not sure his body can take it any more. I assured him the ride would be smoother than a 1975 Chenoweth. Ha! :D

[Yikes]

My son getting some wrenching time in. We've got a plan to get him a Trophy Kart in '09, so he's got to learn some things.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619760/fullsize/img_0391.jpg

Ready to cut off the rock rash.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619761/fullsize/img_0393.jpg

Much better. Re-tapped the carrier hanger threads to 5/16-18 and used them to fasten the rear mounts.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619763/fullsize/img_0395.jpg

All trimmed up and ready for the new bumper. The bumper will be temporary. When it gets close to race time, it will be removed and replaced with one that is tied to the cage. Will probably do the rear suspension first, then build it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/619762/fullsize/img_0394.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

Nice work Brian. Can't wait to see the rear bumper you are going to build.

Chris

[Yikes]

Couple shots of the rear bulge.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620164/fullsize/img_0399.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620165/fullsize/img_0400.jpg

Front fender removed, exposing the soon to be upgraded suspension. Don't laugh too hard. It's taken me on some sweet, yet often scary rides. :D
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620166/fullsize/img_0401.jpg

Couple of cracks I need to repair.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620167/fullsize/img_0402.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620168/fullsize/img_0403.jpg

Front fender mocked up for my viewing pleasure. The corner is jacked up about 3", so yeah it looks tall in this picture.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620169/fullsize/img_0404.jpg

The 1 1/4" over beams should fit perfectly with these.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/620170/fullsize/img_0405.jpg

[Blanco]

Nice.... http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif

[MudMad]

That's some sweet work.

[Yikes]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621088/fullsize/img_0423.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621089/fullsize/img_0424.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621090/fullsize/img_0425.jpg

The front picture makes the track width look a bit narrower than with the naked eye. Once the beams are on, it will be perfect with the 3" flare. Oh, the grill and entire passenger's side are just resting on there for the picture. I plan to sell this bumper and make a wider version to fit the flare.....once the build list has been checked off.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621175/fullsize/img_0426.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621177/fullsize/img_0428.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

Hey Brian,

PM and let me know what you want for that front bumper.

Chris

[Yikes]

Finally driveable again! Still need to make inner fenders, but that comes after the front suspension. Little bit closer.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/625367/fullsize/img_0447.jpg

[David Kennedy]

I have a question about the front fenders. What made you go with the Glassworks pieces over the Autofab fenders?

Also, would you consider the front fenders a "bolt-on"? I have a '96 that I would like to add a set of fiberglass fenders to, but as of yet am undecided on which ones I am going to buy.

Thanks,

David

[Yikes]

I found a deal on the Glassworks. New set for $300. They're hand-laid and a good fit. Very similar to Autofab. No, I would not consider them bolt on. I stripped the factory inner fenders and then mounted the glass to them. It was quite a bit of work, but it becomes a bolt on unit afterwards.

[Blanco]

Yeah, I cant think of any that are an actual bolt on replacement.
I mean , the wheel opening is much bigger than the stock one & so the inner well match up.
I've seen it adapted to work with the factory inner wheel well & inner fender as well allowing you to keep all your stuff mounted in its factory spots.
But as Brian said it does require a bit of effort.

[David Kennedy]

That makes sense, thanks again.

In general, does anyone have an opinion on Glassworks fiberglass compared to Autofab fiberglass? I am particularly interested in the '96 Ford front fenders.

[Yikes]

Just to demonstrate what I was talking about in the last post. I made an 11g plate and welded it in to put strength back into the inner fender after cutting it up and take some of the load off of the glass.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/625010/fullsize/img_0444.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/621087/fullsize/img_0421.jpg

[Blanco]

Actually I dont think you'll find many people that would argue about AutoFabs quality in their work.
Their pretty much the best out there.
My hood & fenders are both AutoFab. & They're also sponsors in the Class3Cup. :)

But I will also say, you get what you pay for.
My fenders can support my fat ass when I'm climbing up to check the oil or whatever.
But I also paid $650.00 for my front fenders.


Hey Yikes, I did'nt realize you reinstalled you inner fenders? :confused:
Got some pics of your inner fenders from out side & from under the hood?
I'd like to see what you did. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/16.gif

[AngerIssues]

I have a question about the front fenders. What made you go with the Glassworks pieces over the Autofab fenders?

Also, would you consider the front fenders a "bolt-on"? I have a '96 that I would like to add a set of fiberglass fenders to, but as of yet am undecided on which ones I am going to buy.

Thanks,

David

And the reason this becomes a bigger job than bolt-on, is the the metal fender supports the whole core-support for the radiator. Anyone that has taken off their fenders realizes that the radiator is free to move back and forth like a wet noodle. If you were to reinforce the top of the core support to a cage or front hoops, you'd be able to pursue more bolt-on options... if they exist. Most glass is designed to have dzus-fittings and therefore some kind of a base behind it (small tubing, etc). I like the reinforced panels above.. but then really, you have a fiberglass fender, bolted to a metal fender. Looks great, you get the extra "flare"... but have you saved any weight at the end of the project? I wouldn't think so. Isn't that the primary reason for going to glass in the first place?

[Yikes]

Looks great, you get the extra "flare"... but have you saved any weight at the end of the project? I wouldn't think so. Isn't that the primary reason for going to glass in the first place?

My primary reason was to give clearance for the tires. Cutting was an option, but I opt'd to spend $420 for front and rear glass so it still looks good. Very little weight can be saved with glass fenders on the front. By the time you throw in the tubing and mounts, it probably comes within just a few pounds of the steel. I stuck with the inner fenders because the cage isn't built yet. Once built, they'll be removed and a tube structure will take their place. Believe me, if this was being built as a race truck I would go about it in a completely different way.

[Blanco]

Being I already was doing an enigine cage I feel it probably saves something.
I swapped to glass only because of the damage my tires were doing to my front fenders & visa versa.

I never wanted to go with glass, but as my tires would stuff it kept making contact. :rolleyes:

& in my Opinion only the 80-86 Bronco's have the bodys lines that look good with a simple cut of the fenders.

[Yikes]

Couple of new toys (Pauls old set-up):

3.0x12 3 tubes for the rear
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629455/fullsize/img_0495.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629457/fullsize/img_0499.jpg

Sterling w/ARB, 4:56, big bearing 9" outers, Wilwood 4 piston brakes, Superior? 35 splineaxles
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629456/fullsize/img_0498.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629458/fullsize/img_0502.jpg

Not shown is the Spirit racing 2 link.

And for the front:

3.0x14 King race series. I have good valving info to start with on these and couldn't be more jazzed!! (the 2.5x14 race runners are for sale)

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629452/fullsize/img_0494.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629452/fullsize/img_0494.jpg


The rock crawler on 1 tons idea is now just a distant memory. It's starting to get intense Cam!

[Blanco]

The rock crawler on 1 tons idea is now just a distant memory. It's starting to get intense Cam!

Yeah, I remember when you were on the fence about what to do with your Bronco.
Glad you went this way. :)
What size rear is that?

& what is this thing? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/6.gif
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629457/fullsize/img_0499.jpg

[Yikes]

Yeah, I remember when you were on the fence about what to do with your Bronco.
Glad you went this way. :)
What size rear is that?

& what is this thing? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/6.gif
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/629457/fullsize/img_0499.jpg

That's the crossmember for the shocks. What size rear......end? or shocks?

[Blanco]

That's the crossmember for the shocks. What size rear......end? or shocks?

Rearend.

[Yikes]

Rearend.

It's a 10.25 Sterling, approximately 65.5 WMS. About an inch narrower than I wanted, but it'll do just fine.

[roczuk]

lookin good Brian.

what's the WMS on the front?

[Yikes]

lookin good Brian.

what's the WMS on the front?

Thanks man! Should be around 67.6" if I'm any good at measuring.

[Yikes]

Got stuff dolled up for the weekend.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/630831/fullsize/img_0509.jpg

The Spirit crossmember is very nice and much lighter weight than I would have built.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/630832/fullsize/img_0510.jpg

All dolled up and ready to go. The axles are actually out getting tapped for 5/8-18 and the rotors are getting freshened up. I pulled the ARB and I'm installing a Detroit.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/631762/fullsize/img_0511.jpg

[convoy]

Got stuff dolled up for the weekend.

The Spirit crossmember is very nice and much lighter weight than I would have built.



Hey Brian does the Spirit crossmember only bolt to the top of the frame rail?

[Yikes]

Hey Brian does the Spirit crossmember only bolt to the top of the frame rail?

Yes, but it's strengthened by the gussets shown in the picture under the spring hangers.

[convoy]

Wow didn't even realize what those brackets were for... Very cool idea. Hmmm now you got me thinking of some modifications I need to do to my crossmember.

[Yikes]

Convoy - How did the SAW's work out? Have you had a chance to flog 'em yet?

[convoy]

I opened them up, changed the oil. The dirtiest I've seen and I was suprised by the looks of how great they looked on the outside. Who ever owned them before must enjoyed running through silt beds. Thanks for the great price!!!

I haven't had a chance to give them a good run down, just down the street and back. I need to bleed brakes, lower the front ride height 1-1.5", and fix my idle issue then I should be up an running in the dirt soon.

[Yikes]

Making progress. Lot of work for a bolt on system. Rivets, rivets, rivets! Trying to clean things up a bit. I had a driveshaft come apart a while back and grease everything up, then the 8.8 puked gear oil all over the place when I was towing the trailer. It's a mess. Been looking at way to many nice rigs lately. Not feeling too good about my junk. Ha!

Spirit two link hanger. It's rock crawling days are definitely over. Ha! Everything is getting bolted on with new grade 8 hardware. If they break, I'll upgrade to F911's, but I doubt it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642605/fullsize/img_0720.jpg

Crossmember is not bolted up yet. The body mounts will have to be replaced just to get it in place. Ordered poly mounts from JBG.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642606/fullsize/img_0722.jpg

Rear hanger bolted on. The gas tank will have to be dropped to tighten the lower front bolt.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642621/fullsize/img_0723.jpg

Super duper traction mthinger.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642622/fullsize/img_0725.jpg

Having an exciting moment here. Starting to feel it.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642975/fullsize/img_0731.jpg


This is how it goes, right?
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/642995/fullsize/img_0732.jpg

[bajabum]

who did you get that crossmember from and how much did it run you?

[Yikes]

who did you get that crossmember from and how much did it run you?

The crossmember is from Spirit racing as far as I know, but I bought it from Paul Wilson along with his complete old rear set-up, so I don't know the new price. It's smartly built with just a few querks.

[steveG]

Both Autofab and Spirit/Spirkoff sell a rear upper shock mount for Broncos for around $800. Spirit's is an in-house installation, Autofab's is pre-fabbed & bolt-on.

[Yikes]

5/8 studs installed
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/643954/fullsize/img_0758.jpg

Nicely welded tubes.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/643955/fullsize/img_0759.jpg

Really ready to go now. Getting it out of the garage today!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/643956/fullsize/img_0760.jpg

Removed the cotter pin, drilled the calipes and put in a 1/4" bolt. Didn't have any prevailing torque nuts, so I used a Nylock, cross drilled the bolt and pinned it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/643979/fullsize/img_0761.jpg

The F53's are coming out about 1/2" or so shorter than the Nationals, so the 2 link bars will have to be shortened accordingly. Tomorrow I'll get that done and weld the upper mounts for the limit strap clevis'.


Sitting at full droop +1/2" or so.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644032/fullsize/img_0766.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644034/fullsize/img_0768.jpg

[peteh]

very nice.

[Yikes]

Have another solid days work to wrap up the rear. Still need to bleed the brakes, run a vent line, rebuild the shocks, machine the wheels, get a driveshaft built, etc. All the small stuff. Check and check again.


Shortened the 2 link bars. Insert a 6" piece of 1 1/4 x 1/4 wall DOM.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644313/fullsize/img_0769.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644314/fullsize/img_0770.jpg

Got lazy, so I used some tabs I had to make a set of po-dunk clevis mounts.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644315/fullsize/img_0771.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644316/fullsize/img_0773.jpg

Using the same old poly bump stops for now. Air bumps aren't in the budget right now. Strapped it'll cycle just about 17", assuming I don't have to adjust it up for the driveshaft angle. Interesting enough, from ride height to full droop the yoke to flange length only changed 1/8".
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644317/fullsize/img_0775.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644325/fullsize/img_0777.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644328/fullsize/img_0779.jpg

[fj40]

Nice, very clean and straightforward class 3 ready rear suspension, good work yikes.

[straightaxle]

Nice, very clean and straightforward class 3 ready rear suspension, good work yikes.

I would have to second that! Very nice.

Are those 3" spring plates on 2 1/2" springs? We had the same issue, and I ended up sectioning the plates lengthwise, took out the 1/2" and welded them back together. Drilled the center hole back to size.

[Yikes]

Are those 3" spring plates on 2 1/2" springs? We had the same issue, and I ended up sectioning the plates lengthwise, took out the 1/2" and welded them back together. Drilled the center hole back to size.

Ha! You weren't supposed to see that. Well, Paul Wilson was running it this way without issues, so I figured it would suffice for a bit. Once I get bumps, I'll fab up some heavy duty units with a strike pad........that fit.



Thanks for the good words fellas!

[pigracing]

Love it!

[toddz69]

That looks fantastic! Good work. Are you hooking up the e-brakes with those Wilwoods?

Todd Z.

[Yikes]

That looks fantastic! Good work. Are you hooking up the e-brakes with those Wilwoods?

Todd Z.

Thanks Todd. I've got to research the correct ends, or fab up some adaptors for the e-brakes. Unfortunately it's been lower than should be on the priority list.

[PWmtn]

Ha! You weren't supposed to see that. Well, Paul Wilson was running it this way without issues, so I figured it would suffice for a bit. Once I get bumps, I'll fab up some heavy duty units with a strike pad........that fit.

Thanks for the good words fellas!
==============
I ran those plates for 4 years and went thru 2 sets of springs. Each were rearched when they sagged. I dont drive as hard and you racers but I never babied the Bronco. I suspect the idea of sectioning them to fit would be good.
The whole rear setup was pretty good. Jeremy at Spirit did it and it sure looks like his full stock setup, but I never looked at his plates.
I am glad that setup is in good hands. Goodby leafs.
Paul

[ntsqd]

Lokar should have solution(s) for the p-brake cables.

I'm lost though, why replace the ARB with a Detroit. To me that is going backwards. Obviously not for you, which makes me curious about what you are thinking and why. I don't think yours is the "wrong" answer, just one that wouldn't be mine.


EDIT: How I now build spring plates. Looks like I seriously need to move away from the ocean.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/ntsqd/host/IMG_0278.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u196/ntsqd/host/IMG_0277.jpg

[Yikes]

Lokar should have solution(s) for the p-brake cables.

I'm lost though, why replace the ARB with a Detroit. To me that is going backwards. Obviously not for you, which makes me curious about what you are thinking and why. I don't think yours is the "wrong" answer, just one that wouldn't be mine.

The ARB requires a solenoid and an air line. Additional potential failure modes. For crawling the ARB would be my choice, but I'm very comfortable with the Detroit and have driven with them for years, even as daily drivers. I would always have the ARB locked in the dirt anyway. For me it makes no sense to introduce potential for problems into the system.

[Blanco]

Lokar should have solution(s) for the p-brake cables.
I agree, Lokar is a good place to look for this.

I'm lost though, why replace the ARB with a Detroit. To me that is going backwards. Obviously not for you, which makes me curious about what you are thinking and why. I don't think yours is the "wrong" answer, just one that wouldn't be mine.

I personally run an ARB & am actually considering swaping to a spool.
& thats because a mechanical system is just one less thing to worry about. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif

Since Brian plans to race his Bronco & Mechanical locker gives him one less thing to worry about.

An example would be when we went to pre-run the MINT400 course in my Bronco, & my compressor cut out right before hand.
It worked fine the day before. :rolleyes:

So we started the course with out it with a rear open.
Then a few miles in the drivers side axle u-joint decided to come apart. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/eusa_doh.gif
So I could no longer use 4 wheel drive.
so at this point I'm trying to pre-run the course in one wheel drive. :rolleyes:

The front axle was out & the rear ARB would'nt work because of eletrical issues.

& that day I start thinking you know, considering how much I'll actually drive the bronco on the street I can deal with a spool or Detroit locker to give me the security of knowing the rear will at least still be locked even if I have electrcal issues, & cant use the front axle. :o

[ntsqd]

I occasionally drive a Detroit on the street. Used to be my DD. Drove it as a DD for about 10 years. If that truck had to go back into DD service that Detroit would be gone so fast it'd make your head spin. It would be replaced by an ARB or a Tru-Trac.

The ARB failures that I've seen could be traced to two things, poor wiring practices and dirt in the ARB solenoid. There are cures for both. Start with not using the ARB solenoid(s), switches, or wiring. And put a freakin' filter on the solenoid's exhaust port. That's where the dirt gets in.

I hear you both on failure modes, but don't delude yourself into thinking that the Detroit lacks them. That Detroit of mine wore out it's case bores where the side "gears" register. Then the axle shafts started "broaching" the bores they fit thru. Talk about a mess to clean up. Foolishly I fixed it with Oilite Bronze bushing inserts.

For a racer I wouldn't mess around with anything short of a spool. A steel spool, and not a "mini-spool."

[Dave G]

For a racer I wouldn't mess around with anything short of a spool. A steel spool, and not a "mini-spool."

Amen to that!

[Yikes]

For a racer I wouldn't mess around with anything short of a spool.

The key words being "for a racer". For a racer I wouldn't be running a Sterling either, nor would I be running a semi-floating axle.

[Yikes]

No need for machining!! Yeehaaa!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645256/fullsize/img_0781.jpg


The nuts engage the studs 3/4". I'll be installing 1/2" longer studs regardless.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645257/fullsize/img_0782.jpg

[Broncodawg]

I swear by my Detroit, but I'll be pulling it now and then to make sure the ring bolts aren't working loose and about to punch a bolt through the 3rds housing. Wasn't fun and dam lucky it didn't lock up on me at the wrong
moment.

[Yikes]

Went to the night race in Barstow with Dale yesterday and got to shake Chris Blais' hand. Awesome experience for me, but I was standing there like an idiot in awe and didn't say much. Very nice guy.

The rear suspension worked excellent. One of the clevis' twisted and caught the springs at some point. Other than that it was flawless. Really makes the front end feel like $hit now. Regardless, it was fast enough through the whoops to scare my "co-dog" a few times. He couldn't believe what it was driving through and how fast, how it fealt, etc. It's sitting a bit high in it's travel, but feels good. Once two spares are mounted, it should be perfect. Never bottomed in the rear, but I've joined Nick in the endless persuit of smashing A/C boxes. Next week the front end gets torn down.


Couple of posers from today.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645979/fullsize/img_0788.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645980/fullsize/img_0786.jpg

[Blanco]

Looking good. :)

I can see you scaring your friends, I remember when we pre-ran Barstow & how you were right there with me most of the way until your shocks got hot with your rock crawler suspension...

The Moss bros better be prepared. :o

[CopyKat]

Couple of posers from today.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645979/fullsize/img_0788.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645980/fullsize/img_0786.jpg

Hot damn I like that.

Now get them fancy beams under the front.

[pigracing]

Boy that thing is sharp looking. I love the second pic. Kind of subtly dramatic:)

[Yikes]

Got to work on the shackles today. They're 1" longer than the factory shackles and will still clear the bottom of the body without modifications. I used Delrin bushings, modified to clear the factory hanger form, Cromo pivot pins and 5/8 bolts. The Shackle is made from DOM and 1018, because once again that's what I had avaialble and it should be plenty strong. Got the first one done, as well as the side plates and bushing assembly for the next.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649341/fullsize/img_0801.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649342/fullsize/img_0802.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649343/fullsize/img_0803.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649344/fullsize/img_0804.jpg

[Blanco]

I'm soooooo envious of your fab skills. :o

[fj40]

I'm soooooo envious of your fab skills. :o

:rolleyes: I totally agree whit Cam..... It´s functional and looks good too.

[Yikes]

I'm soooooo envious of your fab skills. :o

:rolleyes: I totally agree whit Cam..... It´s functional and looks good too.

Thanks guys. Now Cam, you know I just started fabbing stuff a couple of years ago. You could be doing the same thing. Just gotta get started.




Here's the next installment. Remember my 250 hour sliders Cam? Well for the first time I just started and finished a project in one 10 hour day. I wanted to build a down-n-dirty bumper to get the project out of my hair before starting the front end. It's got some flaws, but it's done except for paint and a few bolts.

The main flaw. The two ends are bent in 6.2dgr's. When I mounted the tube to the plates, it rotated a couple degrees, so I lost the straightness from the rear view. Had quite a bit of welding done before I caught it, so it is what it is. It's not near as bad as the pictures make it look, because they're not taken on the same plane.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649862/fullsize/img_0807.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649874/fullsize/img_0819.jpg

Gusseting for the receiver. Hope she holds!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649868/fullsize/img_0813.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649870/fullsize/img_0815.jpg

Clears the tailgate with room to spare.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649871/fullsize/img_0816.jpg

The rear spring hangers are now bolted on, so I utilized the rear two mounting holes, along with the three original bumper mounting points. Will get the 5/8 bolts in there tomorrow. The main plates are made from 5" x 1/4" CRS flat stock.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649872/fullsize/img_0817.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649873/fullsize/img_0818.jpg

Extended the receiver out 3" or so and made a step to get into the back. Something I regretted not having on my last bumper.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/649867/fullsize/img_0812.jpg

[Brokenbronco]

Just waiting for you to post up about the radius arms over here lol!

[Yikes]

Just waiting for you to post up about the radius arms over here lol!

Oh, the pressure!!! Haha!





Mounted the Camburg arms today because the driver's arm was ready to give up. Can you see the extra bend in the ol' Rancho? Cost about 1/2" of wheelbase and an A/C box. Ha!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/650306/fullsize/img_0832.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/650307/fullsize/img_0833.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/650308/fullsize/img_0834.jpg

As near as I can tell, I moved the tire forward 1 1/4" from the factory position. I left 1/2" of thread showing on the heim to pull it back if needed, but as of right now there is no noticeable negative impact. My wheelbase is currently right at the limit of 106.5"
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/650309/fullsize/img_0837.jpg

[Yikes]

Installed an amber today. The cage isn't built yet, so there are limited places to mount it. I decided to mount it in the middle at the top of the window, despite the very slight loss of visibility. I utlized the cargo lamp wiring for the switch and didn't have to run any additional wires. It's not as convenient as a dash mounted switch, but being temporary, it will do just fine.

Also ordered up an ICOM F121 race radio with a mag mount, programming software and USB cable. Been waiting a long time for that.
http://www.pciraceradios.com/product_images/1192hr.jpg


Fabbed up a quick mounting plate from 14g aluminum
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652025/fullsize/img_0851.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652027/fullsize/img_0854.jpg

Fastened it to the fiberglass with these. They're used to mount mirrors on older Chevy trucks. Gotta drawer full and never get to use them.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652026/fullsize/img_0852.jpg

Mounted up.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652028/fullsize/img_0855.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652029/fullsize/img_0856.jpg

[Yikes]

Running one white shock, I'm afraid I would lose the front end before the sun goes down Saturday, so I mounted up a couple of temporary limit straps for this weekend. Thanks for those Nick! It may pogo down the trail, but should keep the parts in their designated spaces. Ha!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/654036/fullsize/img_0863.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/654037/fullsize/img_0864.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/654035/fullsize/img_0862.jpg

[David Kennedy]

Yikes,

How are you running your exhaust now that you've got the rear shocks mounted on the new upper mount? Do you have room to run a muffler anymore? Or do you just let the exhaust exit under the Bronco? Is it loud?

I'm running into a real-estate problem with my rear shocks mounted like yours on my '96 Bronco.

The photo shows an Autofab upper shock mount, and two 2 1/2-inch Sway-A-Way shocks, unfortunately it doesn't show the exhaust issue well.

Thanks,

David

[Blanco]

Yikes,

How are you running your exhaust now that you've got the rear shocks mounted on the new upper mount? Do you have room to run a muffler anymore? Or do you just let the exhaust exit under the Bronco? Is it loud?

I'm running into a real-estate problem with my rear shocks mounted like yours on my '96 Bronco.

The photo shows an Autofab upper shock mount, and two 2 1/2-inch Sway-A-Way shocks, unfortunately it doesn't show the exhaust issue well.

Thanks,

David

I've got the same shock mount But then again I've never had any issues, since I've not run any muffler at all since I bought the rig. :cool:

Since I bought it, all I've run is the factory Exhaust manifold & a Cat & from there a side exhaust just before the Pass side rear tire.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/258541/fullsize/oct17_023.jpg

& it just sounds like I have a flow master or something like that.
I assume once I get headers it might be too loud though. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif

[Yikes]

Yikes,

How are you running your exhaust now that you've got the rear shocks mounted on the new upper mount? Do you have room to run a muffler anymore? Or do you just let the exhaust exit under the Bronco? Is it loud?

I'm running into a real-estate problem with my rear shocks mounted like yours on my '96 Bronco.

The photo shows an Autofab upper shock mount, and two 2 1/2-inch Sway-A-Way shocks, unfortunately it doesn't show the exhaust issue well.

Thanks,

David

This is the only photo I've got. I'm running a Flowmaster single chamber 3 in 3 out. It's very small and tucks up nice next to the T-case. It is loud when I'm on the gas, but idles quiet and is very mellow crusing down the road. The end is turned down and is not in line with the shock. It may put a tick more heat to the gas tank, but so far no issues driving it hard in 100dgr temps.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/645714/fullsize/img_0783.jpg

[steveG]

My rear suspension is virtually identical to Brians. The shocks fit fine with the stock exhaust system. I have since replaced the stock exhaust with a Magnaflow muffler and full tailpipe exiting in roughly the same location as stock.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/616780/fullsize/img_4163-(2).jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/466880/fullsize/img_8028-(2).jpg

[AngerIssues]

I'm running a Flowmaster single chamber 3 in 3 out. It's very small and tucks up nice next to the T-case. It is loud when I'm on the gas, but idles quiet and is very mellow crusing down the road.

I had heard the single chamber flow-masters were VERY loud. I even had a muffler guy talk me out of one for the RACE truck?? (of course that is headers, dual exhaust, and no cat.).

I assume you have stock exahust manfold and do have a cat. converter? Even so, I'm a little surprised you can get away with a 3 inch single chamber flowmaster! (?).

My new 96 is SO quiet you literally cannot tell if its running. I keep thinking it's stalled at every intersection - SERIOUSLY!!

[Yikes]

Mac equal length shorties, 2 1/2" Y pipe, 3" single cat, 3" single chamber. I had a Super 40 on there previously and it was so quiet it irritated me after all of the other exhaust work. This muffler finally woke it up. It is a bit loud for cruising around my little town sometimes, but that's ok. It's still much quieter than drag pipes on a bike and sounds much better IMO.

[David Kennedy]

Thanks Steve, Yikes (Brian?), and Blanco (Cam);

The stock exhaust did fit back on- I'm shocked. I never would've even tried it if you guys hadn't helped me out. Thanks again for all of the photos too.

David

[Yikes]

Small update: Picked up a set of 3.0x14 threaded body Kusters from Gary Stultz. Not pretty and no 1" shafts like the new Kings, but they'll work out fine I'm sure. One of the tops may need to be replaced, because the uniball is loose in the bore. Years of pounding I suppose.


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/682505/fullsize/img_1159.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/682506/fullsize/img_1160.jpg

[Yikes]

Alright fellas. It's seems like a long time since I've layed a wrench on the Bronco, but after looking at the transformation over the course of this year I suppose the progress has been good. Soooo, I decided to finish the year off right and get the front end to the next level. I tore myself away from the guitar for a couple of hours today and began tearing things apart. You know, I think I've got AADD, because I would get a bit done and then start staring at it. Ha!!

The Rancho pivot boxes are much healthier than the factory units, so I decided to use them and make the necessary modifications to relocate the pivot points to the factory locations. It shouldn't take much work and will certainly be faster than making some from scratch. Nothing to really show here, but we all like pictures, right?

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/697903/fullsize/img_1483.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/697904/fullsize/img_1486.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/697905/fullsize/img_1487.jpg

Couple more. Gonna do some work on the crossmember tomorrow and modify the pivot boxes. Shootin to have the beams hung by the end of the day.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698205/fullsize/img_1490.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698206/fullsize/img_1491.jpg

[Blanco]

You play guitar?
Next time we head out together I'll bring my Bass Guitar & lets Jam. :0
Might you be heading down to the Plaster city race for new years?

[locopny]

wow....those photos show something I wont have for quite some time....



a dry driveway to work on.


Always a pleasure to see your progress Brian. Helps keep me motivated to work on mine Tues. nights at work.

[roczuk]

Brian, glad to see you are back on this

[Yikes]

After collecting dust and rusting for over a year...

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698339/fullsize/img_1492.jpg

[Yikes]

Plated the crossmember to add strength at the pivot and reduce the potential for cracking.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698402/fullsize/img_1494.jpg

Modified the Rancho pivot box. I basically just cut off the ears and relocated the hole to the factory position. Increased the bolt size from 9/16 to 5/8. Rancho really did their home work with these things. The box flexes in the right spots to allow minor movement of the crossmember and prevent cracking. The extra support tab is located almost perfectly to center the hole. Good stuff.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698404/fullsize/img_1497.jpg

Got the centersection prepped to swap with Froggman in the morning.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698403/fullsize/img_1495.jpg

Couple of more shots. Finished the passenger pivot box.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698419/fullsize/img_1500.jpg

Welded up the plate that was bolted on previously, similar to the front. This was actually attached to the Rancho bracket. I cut it off, dressed it up and glued it on.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698421/fullsize/img_1503.jpg

[erikshallbetter]

Yikes,

You do some quality work man. That skid plate is awesome! Everything looks real good man.

Erik

[Yikes]

Yikes,

You do some quality work man. That skid plate is awesome! Everything looks real good man.

Erik

Thanks Erik. I'm a garage fabber and I've seen enough good work to know it. Ha!!





Beams resting at approximate full droop using the Rancho springs.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698510/fullsize/img_1505.jpg


I cut another 1 1/2" off of the pivot bracket to match the angle of the beam drooped out. It looked dorky before. Appearance is what really matters, right?

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/698511/fullsize/img_1506.jpg

[erikshallbetter]

"Appearance is what really matters, right?"

I don't know, I'm only in it for the girls.;)

[Yikes]

"Appearance is what really matters, right?"

I don't know, I'm only in it for the girls.;)


Ha!! Some things I just "think".





Worked my butt off today and nothing picture worthy. It took quite a while to cycle the suspension, port the window in the passenger beam, massage the intermediate u joint assembly, install new u-joints & seals, install the centersection, repack the bearings, install the hubs, etc, etc. I feel accomplished, regardless. Tomorrow I'm going to work on lengthening the steering, removing the ABS from the brake system and installing extended lines. If I have time, I'll mount the wheels and begin relocating the bumps. The goal is to have everything prepped to just focus on mounting the shocks next weekend.


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/699606/fullsize/img_1553.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/699607/fullsize/img_1554.jpg

[Yikes]

Man I want to get this thing on the ground! I got the steering mocked up and the bump position identified. The driver's tie rod will need to be lengthened and I think I'm going to do it like the axle, rather than stretching the clamp. The drag link had plenty of adjustment in it, which is interesting. It was tight between the ends previously, so adjusting it out 1 1/4" was not a problem.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/700371/fullsize/img_1567.jpg


The body is offcenter 1/2-3/4 of an inch, which makes the track center look off. The passenger side tire sticks out quite a bit.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/700370/fullsize/img_1564.jpg

This is as far is it will stuff without coil binding the Rancho spring. There's plenty of room to go farther with coilovers.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/700368/fullsize/img_1563.jpg

[roczuk]

lookin good. you have patience.

[motrucker]

deffinately taking some change from what it first started out as in the begining of this thread, i like it. jealous of your fabrication skills also haha

[Yikes]

Getting ready for the 500. We're leaving at 3am Sunday May 31st and prerunning Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. We'll be staying at the luxury resort next to the Mona Lisa. Ha! Rodd Hall is apparently out for this race, so there was space available. Dale is going to trailer the Bronco for me, so that's a little peace of mind. Here's my laundry list of prep/repairs:


Finish repairing the hood
Straighten the frame and fabricate a crossmember for both the skidplate and pivot boxes
Fabricate a mounting system for the spare tire behind the back seat. Seat has to stay in for this race.
Fabricate an adaptor for Dale's motorcycle rack, such that it can be moved out of the way for departure angle while prerunning
Replace the body mounts. I've already got a set of poly mounts that have been sitting in the garage. Should add a little ridgity. Emphasis on little.
Acquire two more new Toyo's and get the new tires mounted up.
Acquire a spare 15x8 Outlaw II
Rebuild and revalve the rear shocks
Replace the burned plug wires and do a tune up. Where's that Lucas at?!
Keep dreaming about having a real Bronco and prepare my mind to take it easy down there.

[Blanco]

Finish repairing the hood
Straighten the frame

:confused: What happened?

[Yikes]

What happened? My right foot!


The results of the Pismo trip and a couple of races I attended in January and March:


Pulled out driver's hood hinge mount
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718645/fullsize/img_1747.jpg

Severely damaged passenger's hood hinge mount. Hood moved forward 1 1/2".
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718641/fullsize/img_1743.jpg

Other associated cracks.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718642/fullsize/img_1744.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718643/fullsize/img_1745.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718647/fullsize/img_1748.jpg

Results of slight bend in the driver's side frame, forward of the A pillar. That used to be a nice straight, shimmed fit.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718644/fullsize/img_1746.jpg

Passenger A pillar mount pulled away from the frame.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718648/fullsize/img_1749.jpg

Another view. This isn't camera angles. It's real.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718650/fullsize/img_1751.jpg

Pivot box. Again, not camera angles. I hope Tim can fix this.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/718649/fullsize/img_1750.jpg

[Scoob311]

Yikes that is one bad a$$ bumper. Did you have any cooling issues with those lights blocking airflow into the radiator?

I think anything you do to keep air from going into the engine bay beside the radiator area will help cool. Lots of class 8s don't have fender wells, air comes around fenders, packs up in engine bay doesn't let air flow through radiator as easy..in theory. You want neg pressure in engine bay and positive in front of radiator.

Scoob

[Yikes]

Sorry to bore you guys with these carnage pictures, but they're good visual references for when my memory begins to fade. In other words, the next time I feel the need to go TT with my throphy junk, I have a reminder of previous attempts.

The big question right now is pull the A/C or no??? Undecided, but seriously considering it.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721407/fullsize/img_1771.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721406/fullsize/img_1770.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721404/fullsize/img_1769.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721403/fullsize/img_1767.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721402/fullsize/img_1766.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721401/fullsize/img_1765.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721400/fullsize/img_1764.jpg




http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/720175/fullsize/img_1752.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/720177/fullsize/img_1754.jpg

Didn't blow any holes! Woohooo!
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/720178/fullsize/img_1755.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/720179/fullsize/img_1756.jpg

Driver's side all dolled up.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721408/fullsize/img_1772.jpg

The battery tray support took quite a hit, as shown in the carnage pictures. It's weak due to the thin sheetmetal it's built with, but not by much. I decided to just straighten it out and add a small gusset to spread the load across a greater area. It's still flexible enough to prevent problems elsewhere and should hold up fine, given all of the abuse it took in stock form.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721824/fullsize/img_1777.jpg


The plastic battery clamp has worked without fail. That amazes me. I'm sure at some point it will let loose, so I fabbed up a strap to help keep the battery in place.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721822/fullsize/img_1773.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721823/fullsize/img_1774.jpg


Little oil box I made to go in the back. A bit overkill, but it won't break.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721842/fullsize/img_1779.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721843/fullsize/img_1780.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/721844/fullsize/img_1781.jpg

[Scoob311]

My blazer front clip disentegrated itself after a year of racing...didn't hit hard enough to crack the frame though...the hood was the first to go..then the radiator core support (I would inspect that on yours)

Scoob

[Yikes]

Got the 5/8 studs and Mossy Nuts installed a couple of weeks back as well. I turned the shoulder behind the flange .010 so I didn't have to bore the holes in the rotors.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/715768/fullsize/img_1724.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/715769/fullsize/img_1725.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/715770/fullsize/img_1727.jpg

[Salttoy]

Yikes, where did you get the studs and what brand are they? I want to convert my early bronco over to 5/8 studs as well. Fortunatly I already have a set of GenII Mossy nuts.

Thanks Salttoy

[Yikes]

Yikes, where did you get the studs and what brand are they? I want to convert my early bronco over to 5/8 studs as well. Fortunatly I already have a set of GenII Mossy nuts.

Thanks Salttoy

I want some GenII nuts!! The studs are just some off the shelf Dormans. The shoulder length and knurl position match the stock configuration, just different diameters. Sorry, I don't recall the part number. The rear studs are grade 8 socket head cap screws.

[Salttoy]

Thanks Yikes. I will get a hold of a Dorman catalog and find what I need. I was just in the right place at the right time for the GenII Mossy nuts.

- Salttoy

[Yikes]

Now that the frame is somewhat straight again, I got to work fabbing up a crossmember. There wasn't much room to work with and I really like my skidplate, so I decided to keep it in place and work around it. The pictures should say everything.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/726993/fullsize/img_1820.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/726994/fullsize/img_1821.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727289/fullsize/img_1824.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727290/fullsize/img_1825.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727291/fullsize/img_1826.jpg

IMG]http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727326/fullsize/img_1829.jpg[/IMG]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727327/fullsize/img_1830.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727328/fullsize/img_1831.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/727329/fullsize/img_1832.jpg

[Yikes]

Tony Rojo of Bajahid.com hooked me up with the conversions for my Hellas. What a difference!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/725370/fullsize/img_1815.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/725373/fullsize/img_1819.jpg

[Yikes]

UPDATE! Haha! It's been a long time...since I rock and rolled...yeah. Anyway. Time does fly, doesn't it? The last year or so has been quite, um, challenging. Here's where the ol Bronco stands:

Last year at the 500 I got a little carried away. After 4 solid days of prerunning without incident, I hit a boulder 20 miles from Ensenada and broke my steering box. Unfortunately, I later discovered the casualties were much more extensive. I bent both radius arms at the plates, bent the frame, ripped the hood from it's hinges, trashed the cowl, cracked the windshield and cracked the transfer case. Given my situation since, the unsightly Bronco has been a driveway ornament for the past 8 months. Until now!!

The 500 is coming fast again and now I'm hustling to get ready. The team is counting on my rig being there and so it's time to step up. I've purchased some worthy suspension for the front finally. Consistent with the old school suspension set up in the rear, I decided to go ahead and stick with coils and buckets in the front with 3.0x12's to keep the tires in the dirt.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/783696/fullsize/img_2871.jpg


I started a simple 2d CAD layout to brainstorm how I want to build the shock towers to tie them in with the cage/frame/bumper. Just getting started...obviously. I'm planning to mount the limit straps inside the coils to keep it all clean.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/788397/fullsize/g-model-(1).jpg


Straightened out the radius arms (plates) and added 1/4" plate to both ears. Relocated the spring pad stud back 2" and inboard 1 1/4, both to compensate for the wider beams and maximize travel with the 12" shocks. May have to play with spring rates a bit, but I think valving should compensate for the added leverage.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/788282/fullsize/img_2885.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/788284/fullsize/img_2892.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/788286/fullsize/img_2896.jpg

Sold my bumpers at started making new versions to fit and protect the glass for my excursions into the bush.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/787806/fullsize/img_2883.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/756995/fullsize/img_2329.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/756994/fullsize/img_2328.jpg

Picked up a double shear pitman made for 7/8's heims to start a single swing steering set up. Probably won't worry about this, or have time for it before the 500 though.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/783776/fullsize/img_2874.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/783227/fullsize/img_2870.jpg

[Blanco]

Last year at the 500 I got a little carried away. After 4 solid days of prerunning without incident, I hit a boulder 20 miles from Ensenada and broke my steering box. Unfortunately, I later discovered the casualties were much more extensive. I bent both radius arms at the plates, bent the frame, ripped the hood from it's hinges, trashed the cowl, cracked the windshield and cracked the transfer case. Given my situation since, the unsightly Bronco has been a driveway ornament for the past 8 months. Until now!!



Reminds me about how my Sammys been sitting in the same spot for over 2 years.. :o

Your work looks good as always..

[AngerIssues]

Tony Rojo of Bajahid.com hooked me up with the conversions for my Hellas. What a difference!



So I gather they were worth it??? I have never been that impressed with my Hellas. The mounting system... the lenses fall out.... been considering getting rid of them for some real HIDs. Let me know your thoughts on the HIDs.

[retroblazer]

Another fix for a fab junkie. Who are you working with on the 500? I am all but certain that I'm will be an entrant as well.

[Yikes]

Another fix for a fab junkie. Who are you working with on the 500? I am all but certain that I'm will be an entrant as well.

Haha! That's about it Chris. Gotta get a mailbox built next. Ha!

For the 500 I'm once again supporting my good friend Dale McCue. They'll be racing pro bike again and hopefully we can get them to the finish this year. Hopefully they learned a few things last year....like don't bring a worn out engine to a desert race and test the race bike before the race. Haha! And for Dale - there's more than one turn in the race! Ha!

Anyway, if you need some support, I'll be free after the bike is in.

[orbot]

Awesome build man!!
How did you mount thoose ballast on the skid plate, velcro?

[Yikes]

So I gather they were worth it??? I have never been that impressed with my Hellas. The mounting system... the lenses fall out.... been considering getting rid of them for some real HIDs. Let me know your thoughts on the HIDs.

The screws have been working their way out of the rings, that's for sure. Gonna have to hit 'em with some Loctite. As far as the HID's, they failed prerunning last year, but I think it was due to where I located the harness. Jury is still out on this one. Hmmm. I'm thinking of converting back to the good ol' originals. I kind of like the light they put off better. Perhaps I'm getting old.

[Yikes]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789881/fullsize/img_2927.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789883/fullsize/img_2930.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789884/fullsize/img_2932.jpg

[fj40]

I am still impress, nice work, can wait to see the new bumpers.

[Blanco]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789639/fullsize/img_2927.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789640/fullsize/img_2929.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789641/fullsize/img_2930.jpg
What happened to the pics?

[Yikes]

Whoaa!! Who dat?! Looks like Supermotors strikes again.

[Moss2]

That lawn tractor should really scream with that motor! Goin straight axle again with those radius arms?

[Brokenbronco]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789640/fullsize/img_2929.jpg
Holy cow! You got taller... and grew hair!?

[Yikes]

Holy cow! You got taller... and grew hair!?

...and got uglier! Haha!

[Yikes]

That lawn tractor should really scream with that motor! Goin straight axle again with those radius arms?

Lawnmower racing is where it's at!

[Brokenbronco]

Lawnmower racing is where it's at!

And no bill savage to deal with.

[Blanco]

Brian,!?!?!?!
If this is actually you, you've lost a hell of a lot of weight!
Its been a long time since I've seen you, but that don't even look like you. :confused:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789640/fullsize/img_2929.jpg

[Brokenbronco]

Brian,!?!?!?!
If this is actually you, you've lost a hell of a lot of weight!
Its been a long time since I've seen you, but that don't even look like you. :confused:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789640/fullsize/img_2929.jpg

He's been kinda sick lately, but he's getting better.

[Yikes]

Room full of comedians. Fixed the pictures. Mine had disappeared. Now get Billybob outa here.


Some other goodies for the battery relocation:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789681/fullsize/img_2933.jpg


Ugly or not, I decided to tie the main tube ends in, because I will hit them at one time or another.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/789675/fullsize/img_2936.jpg

[tnt]

brian, put that bumper in a box and ups it to me:)

[fj40]

brian, put that bumper in a box and ups it to me:)

x 2

[Yikes]

brian, put that bumper in a box and ups it to me:)

x 2

Haha! Thanks guys. If I had the time I would build bumpers for the world.

[Yikes]

Picked up some SAW bumps for a great price. Wasn't planned, but what the heck. I'll shorten them up and they'll make a great addition on the front.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/790715/fullsize/img_2949.jpg

[Yikes]

Decision final! Well, for now. After careful consideration, I decided to do something completely different. 4.0 coilovers!! 6 tube externally adjustable internal bypass. This is just a cluster waiting to happen and I can't wait to get started. Haha!


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/792600/fullsize/img_2992.jpg

[AngerIssues]

You just HAD to be different!! he he What brand are they?

Ya figure the biggest advantages are: no need for a second by-pass shock and being bigger will hold more fluid and resist heating up??

kwl

[orbot]

Wow, you sure change shocks often...

WHere are the other ones you had on??

[Yikes]

Wow, you sure change shocks often...

WHere are the other ones you had on??

Haha! Not true. I just think about changing shocks often. That being said, I've got these for sale. SAW 3.0 x 12 3 tubes...brand new.


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/795601/fullsize/img_3011.jpg

[orbot]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how much will you be asking for thoose, give me a good price i want them, been looking for bypasses for a while but something holds me back when buying them

[Yikes]

I'm selling these to make money, because I desperately need it for my build, so I can't offer a smokin' deal. I want $1400 for the pair, which I still think is a good price, considering they are $1150 each.

[orbot]

Not a bad price but man if i could get my hands on that amount im a bit off, have you tryed dezertrangers.com some guys there might be interested you could even ask for more because they will always offer a lower price than what you ask for.

They are nice though

[Yikes]

Thanks. Just posted an ad at DR.

[Yikes]

Making some headway. Not much room for these monsters.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/796347/fullsize/img_3013.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/796348/fullsize/img_3015.jpg

[Yikes]

The other side.


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/796911/fullsize/img_3017.jpg

[Yikes]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/797555/fullsize/img_3022.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/797556/fullsize/img_3020.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/797557/fullsize/img_3023.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/797576/fullsize/img_3025.jpg

[Yikes]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/799487/fullsize/img_3032.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/799488/fullsize/img_3034.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/799590/fullsize/img_3035.jpg

[fj40]

Great tube base/stearing braket combo

[Yikes]

Great tube base/stearing braket combo

Thanks FJ!


Mocked up one of the shocks tonight. Going to test fit, make a couple of more gussets, mount the limit straps, then remove the shocks and get them assembled. The springs will get blasted and coated before they go back on, as well.



http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/802007/fullsize/img_3046.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/802008/fullsize/img_3042.jpg



Just for perspective, this is a Pro Comp 4" TTB coil next to the BB.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/802009/fullsize/img_3047.jpg

[Yikes]

Little progress...

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/808299/fullsize/img_3361.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/808300/fullsize/img_3365.jpg


Who's idea was this?! Haha!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/808331/fullsize/img_3373.jpg

[orbot]

WHat are thoose for??

You got some mad fab skils, wanna do my truck next?? jajaaj:p

[Yikes]

Those are the bypass adjusters. They thread into the bottom cap.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/808330/fullsize/img_3371.jpg

[orbot]

Ohh..:rolleyes:

[orbot]

Anything new going on with the build?

[Yikes]

Haven't done a thing in a while, but got started on the resevoir cans this evening.


http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/815011/fullsize/img_3452.jpg

[orbot]

Looks cool..

[Yikes]

Looks cool..

Thanks!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/815415/fullsize/img_3465.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/815431/fullsize/img_3467.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/815440/fullsize/img_3469.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/815441/fullsize/img_3470.jpg

[Yikes]

Couple updates. Finally got this thing off the jack stands for the first time in many months. Took me two days to get the shocks assembled thanks to a bad fitting and sourcing Viton o-rings and seals. Nervous about it still, but everything seemed to go together well. Long list of things to do before the Bronco sees the dirt again, but here's a few pictures of the progress:

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835130/fullsize/img_3771.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835478/fullsize/img_3774.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835479/fullsize/img_3779.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835480/fullsize/img_3780.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836721/fullsize/img_3783.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836897/fullsize/img_3797.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836933/fullsize/img_3800.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837141/fullsize/img_3807.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837142/fullsize/img_3808.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837144/fullsize/img_3805.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837259/fullsize/img_3809.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837260/fullsize/img_3810.jpg

[orbot]

Couple updates. Finally got this thing off the jack stands for the first time in many months. Took me two days to get the shocks assembled thanks to a bad fitting and sourcing Viton o-rings and seals. Nervous about it still, but everything seemed to go together well. Long list of things to do before the Bronco sees the dirt again, but here's a few pictures of the progress:

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835130/fullsize/img_3771.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835478/fullsize/img_3774.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835479/fullsize/img_3779.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/835480/fullsize/img_3780.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836721/fullsize/img_3783.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836897/fullsize/img_3797.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/836933/fullsize/img_3800.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837141/fullsize/img_3807.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837142/fullsize/img_3808.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837144/fullsize/img_3805.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837259/fullsize/img_3809.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837260/fullsize/img_3810.jpg

Dude this thing looks good.
Will you be at the race this week?

[Blanco]

Dude this thing looks good.

Agreed!

[Yikes]

Thanks fellas! Got the bracket for the air filter done tonight. One more thing down!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837565/fullsize/img_3811.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/837567/fullsize/img_3812.jpg

[RSB3]

Any updates???

[Yikes]

Not a whole lot. Working out some fuel delivery issues right now. Went to Pismo earlier this year and blew the trans. Now it's got a new Mogi-built E4OD. Took it to Baja a few weeks back. All of my welds held up and it was working well, but then started spitting and sputtering. Haven't found the problem yet, but took it out to the MORE race last week. Was really happy with the latest adjustment on the front shocks. It's taking the big hits well and after some tweaks the tires are drooping out nicely into holes and keeping the front end on top of the whoops. No fancy bumps needed! Here's a few pictures I haven't posted...

[Yikes]

The photo in my avatar is actually my wife jumping the Bronco at around RM77 of the B500 course.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/882811/fullsize/carmens-huck.jpg

Carmen and I at the trailhead to the Compadre Trail.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/881989/fullsize/img_4924.jpg


Mounted the battery in the back and made a quick tube structure to secure the air, oil, tire and jack.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/852434/fullsize/img_4074.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/852436/fullsize/img_4078.jpg


Put in a manual t-case and a battery disconnect.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/848576/fullsize/img_4041.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/843863/fullsize/img_3964.jpg


Relocated my lights
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/871043/fullsize/img_4239.jpg


Wired up the lights and began making an inner fender structure.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/879567/fullsize/img_4804.jpg


Put HID's in the headlights as well.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/879569/fullsize/img_4806.jpg

Moved the dust light to the hard top.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/880035/fullsize/img_4811.jpg

Built another rear bumper and hacked more off of the rear quarters.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/851163/fullsize/img_4069.jpg

Gusseted the cracked pivot bracket cross member joints.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/874521/fullsize/img_4272.jpg

[Yikes]

Rick hauled the wounded horse from the Pismo sand to Steve's shop. Those two are always such a big help when someone's in need.

EDIT: And I almost got a ticket for driving over the speed limit in reverse at the beach. Haha!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/854948/fullsize/img_4108.jpg

[RSB3]

Nice shot of the jump!

[fj40]

Nice, it must feel great to go play in your Bronco after all that hard work, congratulations.
P.S. You just gave me an idea for the back of the XJ...

[Yikes]

Nice, it must feel great to go play in your Bronco after all that hard work, congratulations.
P.S. You just gave me an idea for the back of the XJ...

You know what? It feels awesome! Still lots of little things to work out, but all in all I'm jazzed! Gave it a good test at Barstow yesterday and got some video to see how it's working. Needs a bit more compression, but it's actually not too far off and seems to love speed.

Yikes testing 2.AVI - YouTube

[Grimm]

Sweeet! Looked smooth in that video. How fast you think you were movin'?

[Yikes]

Sweeet! Looked smooth in that video. How fast you think you were movin'?

I kept running through there around 60-62. Could have handled a lot more, but I didn't want to push it. Very fun at that speed.

[retroblazer]

It sure is fun for us garage hackers to watch the progress that you have made on your Bronco. Keep up the good work. My question is what's next?

[Yikes]

It sure is fun for us garage hackers to watch the progress that you have made on your Bronco. Keep up the good work. My question is what's next?

Thanks Chris. It's come quite a ways since that Barstow race a few years ago. Haha! Slow-n-go. My kids are getting older, so i should have more $$time$$ to finish it up within the next couple years....yeah right.

[Blanco]

You planning on racing it?

[Yikes]

You planning on racing it?

That's my dream! I want to race the 500 at the very least someday. Even if it gets destroyed the first race. Still a long way to go, but it'll get there. I hope C3 is still around when the day comes.

[Yikes]

My wife is a cover girl! Off-Road mag did a great write-up on our Baja trip a couple months back.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/894380/fullsize/img_5249.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/894383/fullsize/img_5251.jpg

[Blanco]

Nice! :d

[orbot]

:) ...

[retroblazer]

That's my dream! I want to race the 500 at the very least someday. Even if it gets destroyed the first race. Still a long way to go, but it'll get there. I hope C3 is still around when the day comes.

What are the major items that you have left before you race it?

[Yikes]

What are the major items that you have left before you race it?

Cage, seats and a fuel cell. Then a few grand in the small important things. It's going to happen, just not at my preferred pace.

[Yikes]

Woohoooo!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/895341/fullsize/bronco-baja.jpg