View Full Version : What should a Newb expect at his 1st Race?
Blanco
12-06-2007, 04:52 AM
So for Newbies like myself I'm wondering what should I expect at his 1st race.
I'm figuring I'll start with a short MORE race. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
Besides entry fee's
what else is there to spend money on?
Fuel, for both the Race rig & tow rig.
Hopfully I can get friends to come pit for me on their own dime & I'll buy them all lunch & beer & such.
I'm just trying to figure out if I'm entering a $400.00 race, What else is involved?
What will it actually cost to run in a $400.00 race?:confused:
Yikes
12-06-2007, 06:18 AM
I'm just trying to figure out if I'm entering a $400.00 race, What else is involved?
What will it actually cost to run in a $400.00 race?:confused:
Four fish tacos, grilled and a Corona or two with lime. :D Seriously though. If you hit local races, count me in for support Cam.
speed unlimited
12-06-2007, 06:48 AM
To run a MORE race is cheap its the aftermath that will cost a lot MORE. WE just ran the toys for tot race in class 1 fuel, race 800.00 but a 15,000 prep after the race.Cam I will help you pit Coors Light and food is all I ask for.
Blanco
12-06-2007, 06:49 AM
Seriously though. If you hit local races, count me in for support Cam.
Cam I will help you pit Coors Light and food is all I ask for.
http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/awesome_dude.gif Thanks guys! :D
& FYI, I dont have an expected date for the Bronco to be ready as of yet.. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
petepecas
12-06-2007, 09:44 AM
You also need to buy:
Race suit, anywhere from $100.00 bucks (single layer chepie) to 1,500.00? (dbl layer sparco) or more for XXL?
Helmet, wired and plumbed from $400.00 to $1,200
Gloves, $10.00 (leather, electrician)) to $150.00 (sparco)
Spare tires and wheels, minimum 1 extra set.
Transmission oil, engine oil, brake fluid, Power steering fluid
Spare parts (drive shaft, belts, hoses, steering box, spare shox, etc...)
rent sat phone?
2 charcoal bags
3 dozen wennies
4 cases of TKT
Blanco
12-06-2007, 01:30 PM
You also need to buy:
Race suit, anywhere from $100.00 bucks (single layer chepie) to 1,500.00? (dbl layer sparco) or more for XXL?
Helmet, wired and plumbed from $400.00 to $1,200
Gloves, $10.00 (leather, electrician)) to $150.00 (sparco)
I already have another thread on the above. http://www.class3racing.com/showthread.php?t=621
Spare tires and wheels, minimum 1 extra set.
Transmission oil, engine oil, brake fluid, Power steering fluid
Spare parts (drive shaft, belts, hoses, steering box, spare shox, etc...)
I currently only have one NEW spare tire & I do have a full set of rims.
Yeah I guess I'll have to hit the junk yards for some driveshafts & other misc. parts.
rent sat phone?
But for now, I'm only gonna race local short races like Lucerne & Barstow.
2 charcoal bags
3 dozen wennies
4 cases of TKT
Where on the Bronco would I carry all that. :rolleyes:
Besides as soon as I opened a beer it would foam out! LOL!
retroblazer
12-06-2007, 02:10 PM
Do you have a fuel cell in Blanco?
Blanco
12-06-2007, 03:15 PM
Do you have a fuel cell in Blanco?
No not yet... that will be all I need after the cage, & then I'm good to go minus buying a race suit & helmet & spare parts etc etc....
But finish the Cage & add the cell & I feel Blanco's ready to go. :cool:
petepecas
12-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Blancö
The food and beverages would be for the support crew and will travel in the pit vehicle(s):rolleyes: You do not eat while racing!:confused:
Blanco
12-06-2007, 09:10 PM
Blancö
The food and beverages would be for the support crew and will travel in the pit vehicle(s):rolleyes: You do not eat while racing!:confused:
I was kidding ( I thought the Beer not being good to open after the shaking was a give away. )
Or you might of been kidding about that I should bring that so when I break down I'm not starving, while waiting for help. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/HistericalSmiley.gif
petepecas
12-07-2007, 07:40 AM
Blanco:
10-4 on the humor;)
Staying on topic, have you considered acomodations for the duration of the event?, even rough in it will cost you some money, right?
Also, it's good practice to have some reserve cash for any break downs getting to and from the race, or mordidas, oh sorry, you don`t have that in the states:eek:
Anyway, I hope you can hit your first race soon, best of luck!
Pete.
Blanco
12-07-2007, 08:30 AM
I hope you can hit your first race soon, best of luck!
The more I hear about whats involved now that its a go the more I wished I did'nt give the green light.
Just the Fuel Cells & whats involved shocked me.
But hey once the truck is done, its done right?
Except for parts breakage & constant up-grades. :rolleyes:
I might have to give up my apt & move into a used motorhome at this rate. :o
Anyways my point is I dont see being ready till maybe next summer if I stay focused on this. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
petepecas
12-07-2007, 08:38 AM
Hey,Blanco,
Don't be discouraged, take your time and do it right,
somebody told me that races are won at the prep shop, so...
patience my little grass hopper:)
AngerIssues
12-07-2007, 09:07 AM
nice motorhome comment! :o
seriously, though... I wished I'd listened to my friends and NOT pushed my first race, which was a total joke (see my "team" write-up). I was SO intent on racing ASAP. Of course, back then, FORD paid 10k for a win in a bronco stone-stock full SUV... hence the hurry. All the others were having problems until I came along ;p
take your time and do it as correct as possible. Fuel cell - choose size carefully. Some of them are made to BARELY fit between the frame rails, allowing you to drop them down. That is important - you are getting the MOST fuel in the smallest space, and as low (but protected) as possible.
Blanco
12-07-2007, 09:38 AM
nice motorhome comment! :o
http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/innocent.gif
speed unlimited
12-07-2007, 03:48 PM
Cam, I have a fuel safe cell call me.
BobBower
12-11-2007, 12:53 PM
Hey,Blanco,
Don't be discouraged, take your time and do it right,
somebody told me that races are won at the prep shop, so...
patience my little grass hopper:)
Best advice! petepecas is right. Patience. In the shop. In the race.
Know this... When you kick that thing in the throttle, it will kick you in the wallet.
chupakabras
12-11-2007, 02:02 PM
Best advice! petepecas is right. Patience. In the shop. In the race.
Know this... When you kick that thing in the throttle, it will kick you in the wallet.
i'm pretty sure that you have prerun before or at least drove off road, right, but nothing compares to be on a RACE MODE, oh man, that will be the experience of a lifetime, and try to learn from others, but, well, you learn to drive off road only DRIVING OFF THE ROAD right, so, try to put as many off road miles before your first race, you can drive your truck as you usually drive, i know people who love off road, but as soon as they hit the road they panic, haha, yeah, hope you are not one of them, you never stop learning, so, hope to see yahh soon racing with score,. :D:D
i know people who love off road, but as soon as they hit the road they panic, haha, yeah, hope you are not one of them
Yes, I now someone who actually blowed chunks inside his race helmet in his first race, just as the green flag dropped!!!!!
BajaBronco13
12-12-2007, 05:56 PM
Know this... When you kick that thing in the throttle, it will kick you in the wallet.
Awesome quote, lol.
Gummi Bear
01-21-2008, 01:18 PM
Like mentioned earlier, in any motorsport, prep is key.
*Random Ramblings*
You'll spend countless hours going through your rig, checking every bolt for tightness and torque, looking for cracks, leaks, worn bushings, mystery squeaks and more. Don't dread this, go into it with a good attitude, and expect it to take several days. Relax, and keep notes of what's done, and what needs to be done. Eventually you'll be able to generate a checklist, and go through that.
Your spare parts deserve the same attention: for driveshafts, make sure that they have new u-joints, and strap kits, or bolt kits if they're flange style. Have spare axle shafts front and rear with bearings pressed on (when applicable), and ready to go. Take the time to figure out what hardware, holds what piece together, and make a list of what goes where, and how much. Have spare hardware bags made up, in case a nut or bolt gets dropped in the sand, and you're not out looking for the damn thing in the middle of the desert. Ziptie a spare belt to the engine cage, and make sure you have the tools on board to change it, and can do it with little to no having to think. When in race mode, even the simplest tasks can be crippling because you're head's in the race, and not on working on the broken racer.
As you walk around during the day, lie in bed at night, consider every possible scenario, and make notes. Go through them with your teammates, and try to prepare for the worst.
Practice getting into, and out of your rig with all safety gear on; this may save your life. Be sure you can reach all controls, fire extinguisher and kill switch when you're strapped in tight, and in your safety gear. Practice climbing in and out the window, even if your door opens. You crush it, or get nerfed, and can't get out, you're screwed. All those hours of watching Bo and Luke do it, will pay off. :D
If you have automatic hubs, toss them in the garbage, and get some slugs (drive flanges)
Replace your fuses with light up LED fuses, they light when they fail. Know where all fuses and relays are. Know how to change, and have available, a spare alternator. Memorize the wiring for basic stuff like that. What wire goes to which post.
Take the time to figure out where and how you're going to mount your hydration system. I like my Camelback, and I can tuck the hose under my shoulder harness so I don't lose it.
billy1911
01-21-2008, 01:48 PM
Check out Hunsaker for a fuel Cell
http://www.hunsakersports.com
wiley-moeracing
01-21-2008, 07:28 PM
Hey, you should consider for your first race to be in sportsman class with the goal of just finishing the race in order to make a shake down run and get a good feeling for your ride so you don't kill your self or someone else. Now as far as cost, It all depends on how much you can do yourself,the more you do the cheaper it gets.get the rollcage in and make sure its top notch(for when you roll),fuelcell you don,t need top off the line but bigger is better.Safety gear,again top of the line not needed but how much is your life worth, a couple of extra hundred bucks can be a big difference.Communications, radio's are your life saver.Many spare parts and tires(good used parts to start with).Fuel and lots of it, for you and your crew.Only when you have all this stuff together then go find a easy close course to run and bring cash.Your entry fee is only about 1/3 of the base cost just to get in to run.DO NOT LET THIS DICOURAGE YOU FROM TRYING, it takes alittle time
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