Brokenbroncos *Prerunner* build

[Brokenbronco]

Otay, i got the truck about 2 years ago bone stock, wish i had pics of it from then. First thing i did was to put a 4" Rancho lift kit on it
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/148893.jpg
Then came 4:56 gears, detroit locker, rims and tires. And that was pretty much all i did with it, i just took it out on moderate trails, and towing the bikes out to the dez. I even considered doing a sas for crawlin, until i began chassing for a group of friends down in Baja.

In San Quentin
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152789.jpg

On the beach near Camaloon
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152785.jpg

Sandy hill climb
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152786.jpg

Made it!
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152788.jpg

Along with the miles of whooped out trails, and fire roads i had a blast, and became hooked on the go fast stuff! I realized that my Rancho kit wasn't going to cut it, and that i needed to upgrade in the worst way! So i began to scour the classifieds, to this point i have gotten Autofab coil buckets, eibach coils, deavers, and King shocks.
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152783.jpg

The next trip down south i was bottoming out so bad, it was damaging my fenders, so back to the classifieds i went, and i found me some Autofab fenders!
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152780.jpg

I was put in touch with the guys at Solo motorsports, and after talking with them, i decided to go with their beams, and radius arms, the bko is going in this week to get all the parts of the puzzle put together. After the suspension is on, i will begin saving for other projects, i guess i opened up a can of worms...

[Brokenbronco]

updated

[Blanco]

i guess i opened up a can of worms...
I've always seen it more like, I pushed that snow ball down the hill, & it just keep growing & GROWING! :rolleyes:

I personally keep kicking my self telling myself to http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_stop.gif
But I just cant......:o
Damn I keep throwig so much money at it... http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/bangdesk.gif

But Oh! Its so Fun! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/3gears.gif

& You look like your comming along nicely.
I cant wait to see how it turns out..

[convoy]

Broken,
Oh NOOOO you bought the Autofab Glass for the 87-91 year.

[Brokenbronco]

Broken,
Oh NOOOO you bought the Autofab Glass for the 87-91 year.

Why, what's wrong with them?

[convoy]

Why, what's wrong with them?

Nothing. I ran them for about 4 years before Glassworks finally came out with thiers.

[Brokenbronco]

Convoy, what are the differences between autofabs and glassworks?

[Blanco]

Broken,
Oh NOOOO you bought the Autofab Glass for the 87-91 year.

AutoFabs is probably the best quality out there, Its not the quality he's talking about. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/14.gif

[pigracing]

Your bronco looks good.
Good choice with solo - I'v heard nothing but good stuff from them and I believe they have a built bronco aswell.

[Blanco]

Hey Convoy, Or anyone else thats interested..

AutoFab will be releasing their BRAND NEW to the world. Ashley style glass fenders for the '87-'91 body style Bronco in a few weeks & I will be recieving the very 1st set! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif

[shaner17]

Those deavers look familiar, when are you going to install those?

[Brokenbronco]

Those deavers look familiar, when are you going to install those?

It's in the shop as we speak...

[shaner17]

It's in the shop as we speak...

Very cool lets see some pics when it comes out of surgery.

[Brokenbronco]

Some shots of solos shop
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152917.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152918.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152914.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152912.jpg
4" over beams
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152915.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152916.jpg
Just thought i'd share.

[Blanco]

WHAT! No Class 3's or Bronco's even. :rolleyes:

[convoy]

Broken,
Good choice on Solo, reminds me that I need to get my front axle shafts done by them asap.

[Brokenbronco]

Cam, they have built several broncos, they just do such a good job on them that they don't need to be in the shop for repairs:D

Thanks for the vote of confidance Convoy! Bobby and the crew are a great bunch, and do awesome work!

[shaner17]

I agree they are very nice guys and are very helpful, do great work but a little far from San Diego. Solo was one of our top 3 choices:D

Im going to give them a call about there price on axle shafts too.

[Brokenbronco]

The bronco should be ready to come home tomorrow :D Here are a few pics
Going back together
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152997.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152999.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/152998.jpg
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153000.jpg

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/humm_smilie.gif...................



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[convoy]

Fabtech blue?

[steveG]

Like I said on FSB, the gap between the beam and radius arm worrys me. Otherwise it looks great. You're going to have a lot of fun with it!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/500743/fullsize/152999.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

BrokenBronco, is that powder coating or paint on your suspension pieces? If powder coating, who handled that for you?

CP

[Brokenbronco]

Fabtech blue?

Hey now! It's king shocks blue!

Steve, i'm going to claim ignorance on this one, i see what you are saying, i'll talk to solo about it.

Bajabronco. Solo handled all the powdercoating, but i do have a guy in commerce that does good work. I'll dig up his number.

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif Well!?
Did you pick up the Bronco? :confused:
Was it ready?
Hows it feel?

[BajaBronco13]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif Well!?

Hows it feel?


Uh, you never give a buddy's girl a foot massage and you don't ask him how his Bronco feels. :eek:

[steveG]

Broken, That gap is super common. I've seen several similar radius arms break the upper plate. There's a lot rearward of force going through those. A lot of people get away with it, so you'll probably be ok, but I would at minimum inspect it regularly.

I attached a couple pics showing the same area on my radius arms/beams. They aren't great but good enough to see the difference. Also note the third mounting point on the inboard side of the radius arm. Can you say HEAVY DUTY! LOL

[Brokenbronco]

http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153035.jpg

SteveG, thanks for all of your advice through my build! Oh...your avatar is just wrong!

[steveG]

Looks good Broken. How's it work?

I believe the avatar is courtesy of Blanco.

[Brokenbronco]

Looks good Broken. How's it work?

I believe the avatar is courtesy of Blanco.

Kind of hard to tell. I had all my old suspension parts in the back along with course signs flopping around, so couldn't really test it out. From what i could tell it felt great! The steering is better, and even though both sway bars have been removed, it feels more stable.

I'm looking forward to really trying it out though!

[Blanco]

As for the Avatar.... http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/paperbag.gif
Yeah that was me..
It just bugs me seeing members without Avatars & that the creepy one that I use in attempts to get you to post your own cool one that you like! http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/7.gif

[Brokenbronco]

Powdercoated the bumper

http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153123.jpg

http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153124.jpg

The new fenders are going on this weekend.

[Blanco]

Can you post some Pics of how your mounting your fenders?

I'd like to see how it looks under there..

Thanks. :cool:

[Brokenbronco]

Cam, it's kind of hard to tell from pics. There are several small brackets that need to be made in order to mount the battery tray, windshield wiper/radiator res, and everything else that is mounted on the stock inner fender.
http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153119.jpg

http://offroadworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/BknBronco/153118.jpg

Btw, Glassworks gave me the wrong fenders :mad: i get the right ones on monday.

[Blanco]

Looks to me as if they keep the inner fenders?
It does make things easier & cheaper that way.

[Brokenbronco]

Looks to me as if they keep the inner fenders?
It does make things easier & cheaper that way.

You are correct! They skinned the outer fender leaving the core support. Doing it that way saved me a bit of cash, instead having to build a tubular support.

[Brokenbronco]

You know what sucks? I realized after seeing pics of the infamous early black bronco, that his tube works are also blue...oh well

[Brokenbronco]

http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/itsnick/738055.jpg

http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/itsnick/738054.jpg

http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/itsnick/738053.jpg
My Deavers seem to have settled, i need to take them in to get re-worked, and possibly change the spring rate.

[Yikes]

Much better man!! Those look nice!!

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/awesome_dude.gif

After I get my AutoFabs installed we'll have to compare..:cool:

[BajaBronco13]

Hey Broken,

Nice fenders. We both my end up on this site: http://www.nowhitefenders.com/whitefender_lovers.htm

CP

[convoy]

Mucho bueno!!! Now all you Blanco Bronco need are wider front ends to fill up those fenders...Ha Ha

[Yikes]

Sure wish I had some a dem thar fancy white fenders........uh hem! Uh, Nick? Did you get the PM?

[Brokenbronco]

Baja, that is too funny!

Convoy, aint that what wheel spacers are for?

Yikes, sorry for the delay, reply on it's way!

[Blanco]

Convoy, aint that what wheel spacers are for?

I'd never run Spacers!
But I would get some custom back spaced wheels..:D
Remember class 3 only allows 4 inches overall wider than stock..
& I could make that happen with back spacing.. :cool:

[Brokenbronco]

I'd never run Spacers!
But I would get some custom back spaced wheels..:D
Remember class 3 only allows 4 inches overall wider than stock..
& I could make that happen with back spacing.. :cool:

That was meant as a joke Cam...

[BajaBronco13]

Broken,

Are you trying to get your rear end to set level with the front end? I'm getting deavers in a month and I'm going to have the rear end sit a little lower, I like the dog @$$ look.

CP

[steveG]

Broken,

Are you trying to get your rear end to set level with the front end? I'm getting deavers in a month and I'm going to have the rear end sit a little lower, I like the dog @$$ look.

CP

Having the rear sit lower will inhibit performance.

[BajaBronco13]

Having the rear sit lower will inhibit performance.

Tell that to the TT guys or the Corr racers.

I know this is getting off topic but has anyone ever c notched the rear portion of a frame to get more travel out of the back?

CP

[shaner17]

BrokenBronco, the deavers dont seem to give your bronco a stink bug look, are you really going to have deaver lower the ride height? Did you cycle those springs with your stock postitioned shock's, Im curious what your travel numbers were with the stock location?

Bronco looks clean!!! minus the white fenders but Im sure I'll be running the white fenders for a little bit too.

[Blanco]

has anyone ever c notched the rear portion of a frame to get more travel out of the back?

CP
I dont think it would be class legal.:cool:


Original Wheelbase +/- 2" must br retained but must notexceed 108".
Frames may be strengthened by adding material but must retain stock configuration, size, & shape.
No removalof materials allowed.
Frame must remain stock length but may be notched 8" at the front of frame for ground clearance as long as top of frame rail is not modified.

[Brokenbronco]

BrokenBronco, the deavers dont seem to give your bronco a stink bug look, are you really going to have deaver lower the ride height? Did you cycle those springs with your stock postitioned shock's, Im curious what your travel numbers were with the stock location?

Bronco looks clean!!! minus the white fenders but Im sure I'll be running the white fenders for a little bit too.

Shane, i'm actually going to go up an inch and a half in the rear to get it a little more level. I'd like to change the spring rate so when it's loaded down with tools, spares, food, etc.. i won't be dragging my reciever hitch on the ground.

[BajaBronco13]

I dont think it would be class legal.:cool: You're right, I was just curious. :D

CP

[RelentlessPursuitRacing]

I'd never run Spacers!
But I would get some custom back spaced wheels..:D
Remember class 3 only allows 4 inches overall wider than stock..
& I could make that happen with back spacing.. :cool:

You can, but you will change (for the worse) the ackerman angle and create other potential issues, not to mention the added stress/leverage on the bearings and knuckles.

[steveG]

Tell that to the TT guys or the Corr racers.

The balance between front and rear bump travel on a CORR truck or TT is a little different than a full-framed Bronco.

[BajaBronco13]

The balance between front and rear bump travel on a CORR truck or TT is a little different than a full-framed Bronco.

But if you don't know exactly what someone is running in the rear (including the springs and other gear) how can you make a blanket statement that it will inhibit performance? If you said that it could possibly lessen wheel travel or up travel I could agree. But other then that, I have to disagree.

[steveG]

I think you're over complicating my statement.

If you said that it could possibly lessen wheel travel or up travel...

That's exactly what I meant.

You hit a big bump, the front soaks it up and the rear bucks because it ran out of travel. Not a good thing, especially in a short wheelbase truck.

Moving on....

[Blanco]

Either way dudes......http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/76.gif
remember this site is more focused on Class 3 :rolleyes:

[steveG]

Either way dudes......http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/76.gif
remember this site is more focused on Class 3 :rolleyes:


You hit a big bump in your class 3 rig, the front soaks it up and the rear bucks because it ran out of travel. Not a good thing, especially in a short wheelbase truck like a class 3 truck.

Better? HAHA!

[Blanco]

:confused:
Better? HAHA!

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/HistericalSmiley.gif Yeah I suppose!

[Moss2]

You hit a big bump in your class 3 rig, the front soaks it up and the rear bucks because it ran out of travel. Not a good thing, especially in a short wheelbase truck like a class 3 truck.

Better? HAHA!

Perhaps the ones you have experience with buck because they have highly angled shocks so they fit under the bed. The shocks on a lot of prerunner Broncos are Progressive but in the wrong direction. With a straight axle in front you will run out of travel in front first in my experience. Also depends if the driver is the type that hits stuff with the brakes on the gas on or nuetral.

[BajaBronco13]

Hey Moss,

I'm sure Steve is going to argue your suspension set up as well. :cool:

[steveG]

Baja, I'm not sure why you think I'm arguing, it was just a comment. If you don't agree, it's ok. What Moss said is absolutely true, there's no denying that.

Am I the only one here that thinks a truck is going to buck when it runs out of rear bump travel? I can't be the only one that's seen even TTs do this.

Honestly though, it's not a big deal. I didn't mean to take this thread on a tangent.

[Moss2]

Hey Moss,

I'm sure Steve is going to argue your suspension set up as well. :cool:

I'm sure neither he or I are trying to argue about it. There are a lot of variables that you can change and he is right that if it isn't balanced right it will do funny things on the bumps and wont go around corners to good either. On such short vehicles a little change on one ends height changes the way the weight transfers too.

[BajaBronco13]

I hear you Steve. I'll drop it. I'm just saying like Moss said, there are so many factors. That was all I was saying. I'll throttle back. Group hug? And not like that creepy uncle type of group hug either ;)

CP

[Brokenbronco]

Ok...are we all good now?

Why don't you guys post up in my class 3 pismo gtg thread and we can bench race over some cold ones!

[Brokenbronco]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/505734/fullsize/confer0001.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/505735/fullsize/confer20001.jpg

[BajaBronco13]

Broken,

Your rig is looking really nice. Now it's time to drive it like you stole it. :D

[Brokenbronco]

Broken,

Your rig is looking really nice. Now it's time to drive it like you stole it. :D

Thanks Bro!

[Ckrue689]

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/505734/fullsize/confer0001.jpg




Hey, Where can I get a bush like that to mount on top of my truck???

[Blanco]

Hey, Where can I get a bush like that to mount on top of my truck???

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/20.gif

[Ckrue689]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/20.gif

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

[Brokenbronco]

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm?

Ha! This is about the only place where he can be sarcastic! Oh, and at tww...

[Ckrue689]

Ha! This is about the only place where he can be sarcastic! Oh, and at tww...

yeah, if I were Admin. I would be too...

so whos going to be where at the 500 this weekend?????????

[Blanco]

http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/WTF.gif

I was only laughing at Ckrue689's comment about the Bush. http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/shrug.gif
How did this get turned around on me? http://www.thewebwheeler.com/forums/images/smilies/6.gif